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Re: the Sienna Pianoforte

From:

Shai Drori <[log in to unmask]>

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Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:22:51 +0200

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Thanks for the advise Tom, I'll look into it.
Shai :-)

Tom Fine wrote:
> Hi Shai:
>
> No idea if there's a market, but one of the great things about 
> digital-only distribution (ie no manufactured CD's, download only) is 
> that you don't need to sell many units to recoup costs. If it were me, 
> I'd contact a place like HDTracks (part of the Chesky mini-empire) and 
> see what it takes to sell thru them. Or if you want to go the MP3 
> route, of course contact AMazon and Apple.
>
> I have no idea how rights clearance would work, I assume you'd need it 
> from the family. And if any music is in copyright you'd have to get 
> that clearance and pay fees. With stuff like these tapes, you almost 
> need to do the equiv of title insurance on an old home -- make sure 
> it's legit all the way back so someone doesn't pop up out of a mole 
> hole with an old piece of paper and sue you.
>
> One man's opinions, one man who has never taken on indy release of old 
> tapes ...
>
> -- Tom Fine
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shai Drori" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 1:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] the Sienna Pianoforte
>
>
>> The story is even weirder than she writes it, but it's too long to 
>> print. Carmi went nuts over this piano and neglected his family 
>> because of it. When both he and his wife passed away the family gave 
>> me the archive "threatening it's either me or the bin. They just 
>> didn't want to have anything to do with it anymore. When I arrived to 
>> collect the archive it was their small apartment and one room was 
>> just shelves and shelves or reels.
>>
>> From the posts I see here I am wondering if maybe I should reissue 
>> some of these recordings. There is a lot of rubbish but of the 1000+ 
>> reels there are some gems. Do you think there will be a market for 
>> it? I don't need to sell much to recover the costs.
>>
>> Shai
>>
>> Tom Fine wrote:
>>> Is this information about the piano somewhat accurate?
>>>
>>> http://sueannsnwprblog.blogspot.com/2006/09/story-of-siena-pianoforte.html 
>>>
>>>
>>> Surprisingly, no entry at Whacky Packia.
>>>
>>> -- Tom Fine
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shai Drori" 
>>> <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 5:24 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] the Sienna Pianoforte
>>>
>>>
>>>> The story is told on one of the reels by the person who found the 
>>>> piano and dedicated his life to it, Avner Carmi. I have copies of 
>>>> the counterpoint recordings and some of the master copies. but also 
>>>> many masters Carmi made himself at studio in NYC. I assume they 
>>>> were top notch studios since they used "Dolby a301 stretched", 
>>>> which I am guessing was not in every studio around.
>>>>
>>>> Michael Biel wrote:
>>>>> In the late 50s or early 60s there was a TV show about the piano 
>>>>> dramatizing the early history of it, the covering of it with 
>>>>> plaster or cement to protect it during WW II, it being discovered 
>>>>> by some soldiers at liberation, it being used -- still covered -- 
>>>>> at a soldiers' club, and it being re-discovered when a piece of 
>>>>> the plaster was knocked off revealing the ornate carving.  They 
>>>>> concluded with a short concert being played live on the piano.  
>>>>> The program was probably on the Armstrong Circle Theatre, DuPont 
>>>>> Show of the Month, or a similar docudrama anthology series.  I 
>>>>> then started picking up the records of it as they started hitting 
>>>>> the Sam Goody 99 cent bins.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike Biel  [log in to unmask] Steven Smolian wrote:
>>>>>> The Counterpoint label recordings are owned by the Everest 
>>>>>> interests.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steven Smolian
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shai Drori" 
>>>>>> <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 12:03 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [ARSCLIST] the Sienna Pianoforte
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does anyone have any information about the Siena Pianoforte? A 
>>>>>>> few years ago I received the complete archive of the recordings 
>>>>>>> made on it including all masters and rights. I am now starting a 
>>>>>>> process of sifting through the boxes. according to the lists 
>>>>>>> that  came with the tapes some of the greatest pianists of the 
>>>>>>> day recorded on this piano (Glen Gould for example). I have one 
>>>>>>> book but it's in German so it's of no use to me. Does anyone 
>>>>>>> know where I can find a grant to help pay for the digitization 
>>>>>>> of this archive? Feel free to ping me off list.
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Shai
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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