You need to bake ALL reels of 406 from this timeframe. What's always worked for me with 406 is bake
for 8 hours, let cool for 8 hours, play as soon after that as you can. I've had to go longer with
407.
-- Tom Fine
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From: "Alex Tomlin" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Tape Shed-Sticking & stripping
Hi all,
We also have a few Ampex 406 1/4" 10.5" stereo tapes professionally recorded and stored in London
around 77-80 that are suffering binder adhesion to leader tape. I'd be interested in hearing
comments and suggestions as to handling this problem.
Obviously the tapes require baking yet the main problem is the oxide sticking to the leader tape
edited in between tracks. There are a few types of leader tape and have found that coloured and
printed leader tape is the most problematic.
We have very gently hand wound tapes whilst dousing the problem areas with isopropyl prior to any
baking, but the oxide still sticks to the leader. We have also tried baking as well as dehydrating
to no benefit.
Does anyone have experience of this problem with Ampex 406? Will soaking in silica gel in the
fridge be of benefit?
So far there hasn't been any splicing-tape adhesive bleed which is another problem we're having with
EMI Tape.
Over the weekend I will attempt to post a link to photos of the tapes for everyone.
Many thanks,
alex.
Alex Tomlin
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From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Richard
L. Hess
Sent: 15 December 2009 20:17
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Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Tape Shed-Sticking & stripping
Hi, Martin,
This is very problematic, and I do NOT think baking is a good idea.
There is a CHANCE that month-long cold soak in a desiccated
atmosphere (silica gel inside double freezer (or foil) Zip-Loc bags
in the fridge (not freezer)).
It has worked for some 3M 176 that showed this symptom. It has also
not worked for other tapes. Jim Wheeler gave me this technique. I
don't know his source. I haven't used it much.
The other thing to try is VERY slow unwinding - 1.88 in/s or slower.
Sometimes that alone helps.
The tape in the photo was baked based on a consensus of the people at
the seminar (including the tape owner) because we didn't have time
for cold soak and we wanted to see what would work (or not).
Since that article, I have had good results with 3M201 which had the
same problem and the 1.88 in/s wind-through solved it.
Good luck!
Cheers,
Richard
At 12:34 PM 2009-12-15, Martin Fisher wrote:
>Got a polyester/plastic non-backcoated reel in which the binder is
>stripping off onto the adjacent wind. AKA "binder adhesion to back
>of next layer" on Richard Hess' site.
>
>http://richardhess.com/notes/2006/05/26/binder-adhesion-to-back-of-next-layer/
>
>Might baking be a solution for this?
>
>Martin
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