To me this all points to the arbitrary categories and nomenclature of the
record companies.  Millions of jazz records were issued marked "Foxtrot."

On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 4:51 PM Rodger J. Holtin <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> Bessie Smith blue label Columbias also use that description. Also
> available on YouTube
>
> Rodger Holtin
>
> For Best Results Use Victor Needles
>
> Sent from my sluggish old iPhone, which explainz any bad typjng, bad
> spellimg, nonsensical word choices, delays and all other lapses.
>
> > On Jan 28, 2021, at 6:30 PM, Rob Bamberger <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Steve -- The question was prompted by the label of Victor 19639, the
> > Boswell Sisters' first recording made in New Orleans. A listener saw a
> > picture of the label on YouTube and was puzzled at the sisters being
> > described as "Comedians." I wanted to provide a better-informed answer
> than
> > I could provide singly.
> >
> > David, thanks for the citation to the book -- and my appreciation to all
> > for your input.
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >> On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 2:30 PM Steven Smolian <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> As I recall, Miss Patricola  was similarly identified.  Rob, who else
> >> prompted this question?
> >>
> >> Steve
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:
> >> [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Rob Bamberger
> >> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 1:49 PM
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] What was meant by the use of the words...
> >>
> >> I must not have been clear in my initial posting. I do understand the
> >> gender distinction. The  question is why those terms were used to
> describe
> >> performers who were not comics, per se.
> >>
> >>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 1:40 PM Roy Baugher <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I think “comedian” is/was used as a male variant of the word, and
> >>> “comedienne” is/was used as the female variant of the word.
> >>>
> >>> Similar to “actor” and “actress”.
> >>>
> >>> Etymologists would know better about this subject than me.
> >>>
> >>> Roy Baugher
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 1:13 PM Rob Bamberger <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> "Comedian" and "Comedienne" as artist designations on record labels
> >> into
> >>>> the 1920s? It's  a use of these words in a broader context than the
> >>>> conventional sense. Was it meant simply to identify someone as a
> >>> "popular"
> >>>> rather than classical or "serious" artist? Is it meant to be
> associated
> >>>> with performers who might be seen in vaudeville or theater who had
> acts
> >>>> that combined some comic patter or exchange, followed by song (or
> >> dance).
> >>>>
> >>>> Is there a precise intention that has been written about, or
> discovered
> >>> in
> >>>> primary materials?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for your comments.
> >>>>
> >>>> Rob
> >>>>
> >>> --
> >>> Sent from Gmail Mobile
> >>>
> >>
>


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