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Subject:

Re: separating tracks using Sound Forge 9 or 11.

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Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]>

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Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List <[log in to unmask]>

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Tue, 15 Dec 2015 07:41:20 -0500

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If you have SF 9 or earlier, it will export regions directly to tracks in CD Architect. Can't be 
simpler. I didn't know if he wanted track-files for hard drive playback or crunching into iPad 
tunes. If you can export directly to CD Architect (again, this feature went away in SF 10 and SF 
11), then you don't need to extract regions, just make your regions and then export the project to 
CD Architect (in the FILE menu of SF9 and SF8, I don't think it was available in SF7 or earlier). By 
the way, this is one reason I keep around a WinXP DAW with SF9, so I can make CDs super-quick. 
However, keep in mind that SF's sample-rate converter and bitrate converter are not the cutting edge 
best. One way around this is, make your transfer high-rez, do all your processing high-rez, then use 
something like dBPowerAmp's converter to bring the processed project down to 44.1/16, then do all 
the marker and region work in SF, then export to CD Architect. However, that said, dubbing cassettes 
to digital, you won't hear whatever minor artifacts and distortions are created in SF's 
file-conversion algorhythms, because the source medium is already highly colored and compromised.

-- Tom Fine

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Corey Bailey" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 11:27 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] separating tracks using Sound Forge 9 or 11.


> Umm,
>
> Why not use CD Architect?
>
> Originally produced by Sonic Foundry, now a Sony product, I've used CD Architect (and Sound Forge) 
> since version 3. The beauty of CD Architect is that you don't need to do anything while digitizing 
> the source. Simply open the file in CD Architect and drop the CD track ID's wherever you want. You 
> don't need the Redbook required 2 Seconds of silence which is why I used it in the first place; to 
> make CD's of live recordings without having to separate the songs by 2 seconds of silence.
>
> If you want to do any editing or clean-up, you need to do that beforehand. CD Architect is not a 
> comprehensive editing program.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Corey
> Corey Bailey Audio Engineering
>
> On 12/14/2015 5:12 PM, Tom Fine wrote:
>> Two ways to do this:
>>
>> 1. during recording, at the times between songs, hit the M key, which puts a marker in the file. 
>> After doing all your processing, delete the green region (should be one region for the file). Put 
>> the cursor at the very beginning of the file. Hit the M key, put a marker there. Do the same at 
>> the very end of the file. Make sure none of your markers are doubled up (one way to do this is 
>> save the file, then make sure all the marker numbers are sequential). SPECIAL menu > Regions 
>> List> Markers to Regions. You will now end up with green region marks around each cut from the 
>> cassette side. TOOLS menu > Extract Regions. Do the dialog box right, and it will save each 
>> region as a separate file.
>>
>> 2. if you haven't marked off the "silence" between cuts (there is no silence on a cassette), then 
>> do so after you've processed and saved the file. From there, follow above to delete the original 
>> file-sized region, insert markers at the head and tail, convert markers to regions and extract 
>> regions.
>>
>> If you want to get fancy, right-click the region numbers and choose RENAME to put in the actual 
>> track name. The extracted files will now be saved under those names. I name these with the track 
>> number, ie 01-Start Me Up, so the resulting file would be 01-Start Me Up.wav.
>>
>> -- Tom Fine
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Roth" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 11:31 AM
>> Subject: [ARSCLIST] separating tracks using Sound Forge 9 or 11.
>>
>>
>> Greetings all
>>
>> Does anyone out there use Sound Forge?
>> I have to digitalize many cassettes and LPs.
>> When they're finished copying, I'll need to separate the individual tracks so I can make a CD 
>> where you can choose which individual track you want to hear.
>> Right now, I do it manually (highlight, cut, paste and save).
>> Is there a feature which will do it all automatically by sensing a moment of pure silence and 
>> cutting and pasting automatically?
>> That would surely be an enormous time saver for me.
>>
>> Can anyone help me there?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ben Roth
>> Recorded Sound Archives
>> Florida Atlantic University
>> https://rsa.fau.edu/
>>
>
> 

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