I also know the principle ...! I also know that it is a principle, and not a
law. So: we get a proposal, I ask: Is the arguments strong enough to bend
the principle? (I think not, but I am letting the JAC decide.)

QUESTION: Is anyone in favour of adding an alpha-2 identifier for Hawaiian.
If I don't get any feedback in favour of this within the next week, I will
send out a ballot with a recommendation to vote "no".

Best regards,
Håvard

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-----Original Message-----
From: ISO 639 Joint Advisory Committee [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf
Of Hedberg Sten
Sent: 24. april 2002 15:24
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: New ISO 639-1 identifier ? - Hawaiian


On seeing the proposal I made the same general conclusion as Rebecca has
expressed so well. So I am mainly in favour of denying.

Sten

-----Original Message-----
From: ISO 639 Joint Advisory Committee [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf
Of Rebecca S. Guenther
Sent: den 24 april 2002 14:02
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: New ISO 639-1 identifier ? - Hawaiian


We go back to the question about the relationship between ISO 639-1 and
639-2. Our principles say:

"New codes will no longer be added to ISO 639-1 after the publication of a
revised standard unless they are also added to ISO 639-2."

"A language code already in ISO 639-2 at the point of freezing ISO 639-1
shall not later be added to ISO 639-1. This is to ensure consistency in
usage over time, since users are directed in Internet applications to
employ the alpha-3 code when an alpha-2 code for that language is not
available."

The question is, do we consider the revision of 639-1 published? Certainly
it's been ballotted. Is this the point at which we no longer add 639-1
codes? Remember, this is because of the RFC which says that in absence of
a 639-1 code, use a 639-2 code. If anyone has used Hawaiian they will have
already used the 639-2 code to represent that language.

Maybe their programmers are unaware of RFC 3066 which instructs you to use
the alpha-3 code if there's no alpha-2 code.

Rebecca