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PCCTG1  March 2010

PCCTG1 March 2010

Subject:

Re: Non-Latin report latest draft

From:

"D. Brooking" <[log in to unmask]>

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Program for Cooperative Cataloging <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 22 Mar 2010 10:56:35 -0700

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Keiko wrote:

"For the attached report: regarding the last bullet about future authority 
control of non-Latin headings, the first sentence states "The
optional parallel non-Latin heading fields permitted under these 
guidelines are essentially variant headings and  are not under authority
control." I would add "when not included as cross-references." because, 
even though it's not authorized form, if the non-Latin headings
are in authority files as x-refs., technically "authority controlled", I 
think."

I wouldn't go that far. Using forms that are supposed to be x-refs (i.e., 
do not use this form) in a bib doesn't quite add up to being "under 
control" for me.

" Then the next sentence says "Although even these uncontrolled forms do
  enhance access to bibliographic records, ... ", my recommendation to say
  "these uncontrolled forms might enhance ... " rather "these uncontrolled
  forms do enhance ... ". I understand that they do enhance, but not
  enhance in the best way or desirable way. So I kind of prefer to use
  "might" ...

I agree with Keiko. More data doesn't always equal better access. 
Especially in catalogs that do have cross-references and other features of 
authority control, presence of non-Latin headings in bibs can confuse 
access quite a bit.


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Diana Brooking             (206) 685-0389
Cataloging Librarian       (206) 685-8782 fax
Suzzallo Library           [log in to unmask]
University of Washington
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On Sun, 21 Mar 2010, Suzuki, Keiko wrote:

> Dear Peter and all,
>
> I arrived in Philadelphia a few hours ago for the annual meeting of 
> Council on East Asian Libraries. So unfortunately, the timing of the 
> final work for this report is pretty bad for us for East Asia 
> specialists. I tried to go over, although briefly, and have two 
> comments.
>
> For the attached report: regarding the last bullet about future 
> authority control of non-Latin headings, the first sentence states "The 
> optional parallel non-Latin heading fields permitted under these 
> guidelines are essentially variant headings and are not under authority 
> control." I would add "when not included as cross-references." because, 
> even though it's not authorized form, if the non-Latin headings are in 
> authority files as x-refs., technically "authority controlled", I think.
>
> Then the next sentence says "Although even these uncontrolled forms do 
> enhance access to bibliographic records, ... ", my recommendation to say 
> "these uncontrolled forms might enhance ... " rather "these uncontrolled 
> forms do enhance ... ". I understand that they do enhance, but not 
> enhance in the best way or desirable way. So I kind of prefer to use 
> "might" ...
>
> Also maybe we could add here about the strong recommendation to add 
> those "uncontrolled forms" to authority files by PCC/NACO catalogers. 
> Then extend the discussion to future original script authorized 
> headings? Although I myself have still hard time to envision that, for 
> example, all of our library users use Chinese or Arabic or Cyrillic 
> script name headings. But then again, there must be the way to add 
> non-Latin headings not just as x-ref. but language/script-oriented(?) 
> authority forms, probably close to the VIAF concept.
>
> The 2nd and last thing is about Korean spacing issue in 3.2. Robert, 
> could you remind me what is the Mr. Morimoto's comment? We took this 
> part from CONCER App. O (See 5. on p. 3 of 
> http://www.loc.gov/acq/conser/pdf/ceg/AppendixO.2009-19.pdf) except I 
> added "not only descriptive fields and notes, but also headings," to 
> clarify it applies to headings after we consulted LC Korean experts 
> through David. If the addition affected something Mr. Morimoto 
> addressed, then we could surely change the part. But otherwise ...
>
> OK, that's it. I have to go now. It would be a bit difficult to work on 
> this during the conference, which will end Friday (for me), but I'll try 
> to follow up on the last point if necessary.
>
> Best,
>
> - Keiko
>
> ________________________________
> From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Fletcher, Peter [[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 8:59 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [PCCTG1] Non-Latin report latest draft
>
> All, I attached the latest draft of the report that will accompany the guidelines when we submit them next week.
>
> I know you all out there on the East Coast are all gone home by now. Hope you had a good weekend.
>
> Peter
>
> Peter Fletcher
> Cyrillic Catalog Librarian and Metadata Specialist
> [log in to unmask]
> Office: (310) 206-3927
> Fax: (310) 794-9357
> UCLA Cataloging & Metadata Center
> 11020 Kinross Avenue
> Box 957230
> Los Angeles, CA 90095-7230
>

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