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Subject:

ISO 639 request: Neapolitan

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Havard Hjulstad <[log in to unmask]>

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Fri, 26 Apr 2002 16:35:00 +0200

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Below is a submission for alpha-2 and alpha-3 identifier for Nepolitan.

The language is included in Ethnologue as an individual language
"Neapolitan-Calabrese".

I invite the JAC to discuss the matter. Both indetifiers "np" and "nap" are
available. I should think that this is a candidate for alpha-3 identifier,
but that it may be less likely that an alpha-2 identifier should be
assigned.

Best regards,
Havard

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 16:18:04 +0100
From: Carmine Colacino <[log in to unmask]>
To: Rebecca S. Guenther <[log in to unmask]>
Cc: Antonio Pagano <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Neapolitan

Dear Ms Guenther:

Thank you very much for your message. I realize Neapolitan is wrongly
considered, by some, as a dialect of Italian, even though it is clear to all
it was an independent development from Latin (I mean, independent from
Italian). This reasoning applies also to the Sicilian language, and other
languages spoken in  the Italian peninsula.

It is a situation similar to that of Catalan, and Galician, in Spain, for
instance.

I am a speaker of Neapolitan (the language is still spoken widely), and I
submitted this request on behalf of myself , and  of Associazione Culturale
Due Sicilie (Cultural Association Two Sicilies) http://duesicilie.org/.

I would, therefore, insist in that an Independent code for the Neapolitan
language is established, as well as one for the Sicilian language (but I am
not a speaker of that language). I know the status is debatable, but this
applies also to several languages recognized as such anyway.

Please, refer to the following web page for more detailed information on the
Neapolitan language http://duescilie,org/Nnapulitano.html

I hope you will consider favorably my request, and, please, do not hesitate
to get back to me should you need further information.

Sincerely,

Carmine Colacino
DueSicilie.org



cc: President, Associazione Culturale Due Sicilie


'o 28.01.2002 15:40, Rebecca S. Guenther a [log in to unmask] scrivette:

> Dear Carmine Colacino:
>
> This is a situation where we would probably consider the language a
> dialect of Italian, although I know this could be a matter of debate. We
> are looking at developing a related language code standard that allows for
> extensions to the basic code for this sort of situation. However, this is
> just under development.
>
> You state that your status is "speaker of language". Are you submitting
> this request on behalf of an institution or official body?
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> ^^  Rebecca S. Guenther                                   ^^
> ^^  Chair, ISO 639 Joint Advisory Committee               ^^
> ^^  Senior Networking and Standards Specialist            ^^
> ^^  Library of Congress                                   ^^
> ^^  Washington, DC 20540-4402                             ^^
> ^^  (202) 707-5092 (voice)    (202) 707-0115 (FAX)        ^^
> ^^  [log in to unmask]                                          ^^
> ^^                                                        ^^
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>
> On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, WWW generic account wrote:
>
>> This data was submitted on: Monday, December 10, 2001 at 08:39:05
>>
>> lang_in_eng = NEAPOLITAN
>> lang_in_fre = NAPOLITAIN
>> ref_where_found_1 = BIBLIOTECA NAZIONALE NAPOLI (NAPLES)
>> lang_in_vern = Napulitano, Nnapulitano
>> ref_where_found_2 = as above, many books in print presently
>> trans_lit =
>> evidence = The National Library in Naples holds many more than 50
documents
>> in the Neapolitan language. Books in Neapolitan, particularly Poetry, are
>> currently in print and available in NAples, and elsewhere.

>> addinfo = Neapolitan is written since the 15th Century (Basile's
Pentamerone,
>> for instance). The language's name refers to most ofsouthern Italy
(several
>> variants), excluded southern Calabria, and Southern Apulia [Salento],
where
>> a variety of Sicilian is spoken instead. Divided in several dialects
>> (Calabrian, Abruzzese, Molisano, Apuilian, Barese, Neapolitan proper,
>> Lucanian, etc.). For references see web page
>> http://duesicilie.org/Napulitano.html

>> Number of speakers: 20 million (including people speaking varieties of
it).
>> No official status (Italian government doesn't recognize it as a distinct
>> language).
>> Please, let me know if you need more specific and detailed information.
>> request_addition = ISO 639-2 only
>> 2_code_suggestion = NP
>> 3_code_suggestion = NAP
>> submit_name = Carmine Colacino
>> submit_email = [log in to unmask]
>> submit_status = Speaker of language
>>
>>
>>
>

--
Dr Carmine Colacino - [log in to unmask]
Herbarium Lucanum [HLUC] & Dept. of Biology
University of Basilicata - Campus C/da Macchia Romana
85100 Potenza, southern Italy
Tel. +39 0971205743; Lab +39 0971205732; Fax +39 0971205742
http://www2.unibas.it/utenti/colacino/mediterraneo.html

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