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JACVOTE  November 2002

JACVOTE November 2002

Subject:

ISO 639 JAC ballot 6-2002 - Aragonese

From:

infopoint <[log in to unmask]>

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ISO JAC Voting Member List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 21 Nov 2002 16:04:43 +0100

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ISO 639 Ballot 6-2002 New item: Aragonese

Please vote by Friday 2002-12-06.

Please see additional information below the ballot form.

Submitted by (your name, please):

(A) -- Inclusion:
(1)
___  I am in favour of including the individual language "Aragonese" in
639-2 (alpha-3 code)
___  I am opposed to including the individual language "Aragonese" in 639-2
(alpha-3 code)

(2)
___  I am in favour of including the individual language "Aragonese" in
639-1 (alpha-2 code)
___  I am opposed to including the individual language "Aragonese" in 639-1
(alpha-2 code)

(B) -- Identifiers:
(Please vote even if you are opposed to the inclusion of the item)
(3)
___  I accept the alpha-3 identifier "axx" for Aragonese (if to be included)
___  I do not accept the identifier "axx" -- Comment:

(4)
___  I accept the alpha-2 identifier "an" for Aragonese (if to be included)
___  I do not accept the identifier "an" -- Comment:

(C) -- Language names:
(5)
___  I accept the English name "Aragonese" (if to be included)
___  I do not accept the English name "Aragonese" -- Comment:

(6)
___  I accept the French name "aragonais" (if to be included)
___  I do not accept the French name "aragonais" -- Comment:

(7)
___  I accept the indigenous name "aragonés" (if to be included)
___  I do not accept the indigenous name "aragonés" -- Comment:


Other comments:

* * * * * * *

Background and additional information:

The item has actually been on the table of the JAC since before the February
2000 meeting (with a proposal to include in both tables). It was deferred at
that meeting. New proposals have been received from two different proposers:

(1)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
This data was submitted on: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 at 15:22:46

lang_in_eng_change = ARAGONESE
lang_in_fre_change = ARAGONESE
iso_639_2_b = roa
iso_639_2_t = roa
change_requested = The code roa is classified in ISO 639 as a collective
language code. It encompasses all the related languages that comprise the
members of a single genetic subgroup (excluding those that have a more
specific code).

The Aragonese is a language, spoken for very people in Aragon, and have very
web in Internet.We need a more specific code.

We'd Like The Code for aragonese language  - ARG -

Thanks.

submit_name = Rafa
submit_email = [log in to unmask]
submit_status = Speaker of language.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

(2)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
This data was submitted on: Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 04:47:03

lang_in_eng = Aragonese
lang_in_fre = Aragonais
ref_where_found_1 = http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=AXX
lang_in_vern = Aragonés
ref_where_found_2 = http://orbita.starmedia.com/~prexinallo/biblind.html
trans_lit =
evidence = The ISBN agency in Spain has registered the publication of about
200 books in the last years:
http://www.mcu.es/cgi-bin/BRSCGI3701?CMD=VERLST&CONF=AEISPA.cnf&BASE=ISBN&DO
CS=1-189&SORT=-T353:4&EXPBUS=((DISPONIBLE%20OR%20AGOTADO)).WDIS.%20%26%20(AR
AGONES).WLEN.&QUERY=((DISPONIBLE%20OR%20AGOTADO)).WDIS.%20%26%20(ARAGONES).W
LEN.
addinfo = About 12,000 active speakers, and about 40,000 passive speakers.
Protected language in Aragon, officially teached in some areas. It's spoken
on the northern areas of Aragon (Spain).

There is an introduction to the history of the language in Wikipedia:
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aragonese_language

SIL code is AXX (http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=AXX)
request_addition = ISO 639-2 only
2_code_suggestion =
3_code_suggestion = AXX
submit_name = Enrique Matías Sánchez
submit_email = [log in to unmask]
submit_status = Passive speaker of language.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Additional information was requested and received. This information has been
circulated to the JAC on 2002-10-22.

There has been some discussion as to the inclusion in the alpha-2 code
table. Information received indicates that the degree of "official status"
and ongoing lexicography and terminology work supports the inclusion in the
alpha-2 code table.

Identifiers:

The original alpha-2 proposal is "an". That is available.

The Ethnologue identifier is "AXX", which is also indicated by one of the
proposers; another proposed identifier (in the other submitted proposal) is
"arg". Both these are available in ISO 639-2. However, "ARG" is used for a
different language in Ethnologue, and we may wish to avoid new conflicts
with Ethnologue. All "sensible" alpha-3 combinations starting with AR, AA,
AG, AO, AN, AE, AS are taken in Ethnologue. For that reason I propose "axx".

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