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ISOJAC  January 2003

ISOJAC January 2003

Subject:

ADYGHE

From:

John Clews <[log in to unmask]>

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Date:

Wed, 29 Jan 2003 21:02:03 GMT

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A consistent arrangement of information is included for each
language, for easy reference.

Comments are marked by ****

John Clews

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Ethnologue:
ADYGHE [ADY] lang, Russia, Europe, Turkey

Ballot:
___ I accept/do not accept the alpha-3 identifier
"adg" for Adyghe (if to be included)


Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002
Both the proposed identifier (adg) and the Ethologue identifier (ady)
are available in ISO 639-2. I would recommend that we choose "ady".

**** QUESTION: When/why the change from
        ady to
        adg
        ?

Result:
The ballot passed unanimously on all points except the French name.

Comments have in fact been made on using alternative names like
Circassian or
Cherkess[ian].

**** COMMENT: Again, absolutely avoid reference to Circassian or
        to Cherkess alone. Both are commonly used as as synonym
        for Caucasian, in both Russia and Turkey, as well as
        further West.

        They are also used as synonyms for two different Caucasian
        languages, as Ethnologue notes:

        CHERKES alt for ADYGHE [ADY]
        CHERKES dial of KABARDIAN [KAB]

        KABARDINO-CHERKES alt for KABARDIAN [KAB]
        UPPER CIRCASSIAN alt for KABARDIAN [KAB]
        UPPER CIRCASSIAN alt for KABARDIAN [KAB]
        EAST CIRCASSIAN alt for KABARDIAN [KAB]
        UPPER CIRCASSIAN alt for KABARDIAN [KAB]
        KABARDINO-CHERKES alt for KABARDIAN [KAB]

        CIRCASSIAN alt for ADYGHE [ADY]
        LOWER CIRCASSIAN alt for ADYGHE [ADY]
        WEST CIRCASSIAN alt for ADYGHE [ADY]

        If you do use these terms, i.e. Circassian or Cherkess or
        Cherkessian, be as specific as Ethnologue, otherwise only
        confusion will be caused.

        Just ignoring the comment on including words like Circassian
        or Cherkess as alternative language names would be simplest.

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--
John Clews,
Keytempo Limited (Information Management),
8 Avenue Rd, Harrogate, HG2 7PG
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tel: +44 1423 888 432;

Committee Member of ISO/IEC/JTC1/SC22/WG20: Internationalization;
Committee Member of ISO/TC37/SC2/WG1: Language Codes

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