LISTSERV mailing list manager LISTSERV 16.0

Help for MODS Archives


MODS Archives

MODS Archives


MODS@LISTSERV.LOC.GOV


View:

Message:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Topic:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Author:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

Font:

Proportional Font

LISTSERV Archives

LISTSERV Archives

MODS Home

MODS Home

MODS  July 2003

MODS July 2003

Subject:

Re: DB's and MODS?

From:

Bruce D'Arcus <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Metadata Object Description Schema List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:39:45 -0800

Content-Type:

text/plain

Parts/Attachments:

Parts/Attachments

text/plain (82 lines)

Thanks for the clarifications guys!

On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 12:29:03 -0400, "Jerome McDonough"
<[log in to unmask]> said:

<snip>

> So, you can map MODS losslessly into an RDBMS, but if the
> main point of the exercise is to make it easy to search, you shouldn't
> bother; use an XML-base text retrieval engine.  If that's *not* the main point,
> and you're more concerned about data management, than an RDBMS may
> be the way to go.

<snip>

> Given all of the above, and your description of your project, I'd
> seriously consider just keeping the bibliographic data your storing as a series
> of XML records in a single file.

I explained this in a private follow-up to Rick, but am thinking I should
probably do so here in case anyone might be interested.

I have big plans that involve replacing BibTeX and the binary data and
formatting files produced by commercial applications like Endnote with
XML data files and XSLT formatting files.  In others words, I want the
power of XML and of MODS available not just to librarians and such, but
to end users like me (a social scientist who does a fair bit of
non-standard citing for academic articles and books), to college
students, etc.

The most evolved project (well, really the only one!) that deals with
these needs using XML and XSLT is refdb:

http://refdb.sourceforge.net

It uses RDBMSs for storage, and currently supports MySQL, PostgreSQL, and
SQLite.  This itself offers some nice flexibility.  It allows multi-user
support in large organizations if they should need it, while also
allowing for easy-to-use and administer embedded options as well.
Because of the client-server design, it also in theory allows other
projects to use refdb as their engine.

At the moment, the Open Office project has a bibliographic subproject.
That project is currently in the design stages, and one participant (who
is now on this list) has been working on a data model for it.  I have
argued that he really needs to look at MODS, but we're a little unsure
about how to go about supporting it (I myself know nothing about DB
design).

What I want to see is that project adopt refdb as its data storage and
formatting engine.  I also want to see the refdb data model and the xslt
files that format these records enhanced to use MODS (Or something very
close to MODS) records. Doing so will help create an open source
foundation to significantly enhance bibliographic support for students
and researchers.

What you all are saying is that there are tradeoffs here.  So which is
the least painful choice (in terms of development work needed -- because
there are very few contributers to these projects, me included, who can
actually program -- but also features, and user experience)?  I am
confident MODS + XSLT is the solution to some real problems, but the
question of data storage is still open.

I do think it's important for whatever next-generation bib tools to be
able to support a few thousand records gracefully, and to have an option
for multi-user access at some point at least.

So does your answer change given this?  Or should we be looking at XML
databases?  I also read somewhere there are a few Java tools that
simplify dealing with XML data in the context of RDBMSs, but I know
nothing more.

If anyone has any further advice (or wants to help in some other way),
please keep it coming.

Thanks,
Bruce


--
http://www.fastmail.fm - Sent 0.000002 seconds ago

Top of Message | Previous Page | Permalink

Advanced Options


Options

Log In

Log In

Get Password

Get Password


Search Archives

Search Archives


Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Subscribe or Unsubscribe


Archives

June 2022
May 2022
April 2022
March 2022
February 2022
January 2022
December 2021
November 2021
October 2021
September 2021
August 2021
May 2021
November 2020
September 2020
August 2020
July 2020
May 2020
April 2020
March 2020
February 2020
January 2020
December 2019
October 2019
September 2019
August 2019
June 2019
May 2019
March 2019
February 2019
January 2019
November 2018
October 2018
September 2018
August 2018
July 2018
June 2018
May 2018
April 2018
February 2018
January 2018
December 2017
November 2017
October 2017
September 2017
July 2017
June 2017
May 2017
April 2017
March 2017
February 2017
November 2016
October 2016
September 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
January 2016
December 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
July 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
September 2014
August 2014
July 2014
June 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
October 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
May 2009
April 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
December 2006
November 2006
October 2006
September 2006
August 2006
July 2006
June 2006
May 2006
April 2006
March 2006
February 2006
January 2006
December 2005
November 2005
October 2005
September 2005
August 2005
July 2005
June 2005
May 2005
April 2005
March 2005
February 2005
January 2005
December 2004
November 2004
October 2004
September 2004
August 2004
July 2004
June 2004
May 2004
April 2004
March 2004
February 2004
January 2004
December 2003
November 2003
October 2003
September 2003
August 2003
July 2003
June 2003
May 2003
April 2003
March 2003
February 2003
January 2003
December 2002
November 2002
October 2002
September 2002
August 2002
July 2002
June 2002
May 2002
April 2002
March 2002
February 2002

ATOM RSS1 RSS2



LISTSERV.LOC.GOV

CataList Email List Search Powered by the LISTSERV Email List Manager