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Subject:

Re: JAC ballot 2004-04 - Mirandese

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"Patton,Glenn" <[log in to unmask]>

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ISO JAC Voting Member List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 13 Jul 2004 14:37:17 -0400

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JAC ballot 2004-04 - Mirandese

PLEASE VOTE BY 2004-08-06.

Submitted by (your name, please): Glenn Patton

Please see below for additional information.


(A) -- Inclusion:

(1)

___ I am in favour of including "Mirandese" in 639-1 (alpha-2 code)

_XX I am opposed to including "Mirandese" in 639-1 (alpha-2 code)

(2)

_XX I am in favour of including "Mirandese" in 639-2 (alpha-3 code)

___ I am opposed to including "Mirandese" in 639-2 (alpha-3 code)


(B) -- Identifiers:

(Please vote even if you are opposed to the inclusion of the item.)

(3)

___ I accept the alpha-2 identifier "md" for "Mirandese" (if to be included)

_XX I do not accept the alpha-2 identifier "md" for "Mirandese" -- Comment:

(4)

_XX I accept the alpha-3 identifier "mwl" for "Mirandese" (if to be
included)

___ I do not accept the alpha-3 identifier "mwl" for "Mirandese" -- Comment:


(C) -- Language names:

(Please vote even if you are opposed to the inclusion of the item.)

(5)

_XX I accept the English name "Mirandese"

___ I do not accept the English name "Mirandese" -- Comment:

(6)

_XX I accept the French name "mirandais"

___ I do not accept the French name "mirandais" -- Comment:

(7)

_XX I accept the indigenous name "mirandés"

___ I do not accept the indigenous name "mirandés" -- Comment:


(D)

Other comments:

* * * * * * * * *

Additional information:

Please find the original submission below.

During the JAC discussion that was initiated on 2004-04-05 there has been a
couple of voices opposing the inclusion in the alpha-2 table, but none to
the inclusion in the alpha-3 table.

The alpha-3 identifier in the ballot is the one currently used in draft ISO
639-3 (where "mir" is used for a different item).

ORIGINAL SUBMISSION:

This data was submitted on: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 at 01:27:25

lang_in_eng = Mirandese
lang_in_fre = Mirandais
ref_where_found_1 = http://www.uoc.edu/euromosaic/ 
lang_in_vern = Mirandés
ref_where_found_2 = http://www.uoc.edu/euromosaic/ 
trans_lit = 
evidence = Associaçon de Lhéngua Mirandesa (Mirandese Language Association)
has about 100 documents totally or partially written in Mirandese. It can be
reached at [log in to unmask] or Rua de Dona Estefânia, 197, 3ºA, 1000 Lisbon.

Centro de Linguística da Universidade de Lisboa - CLUL (Lisbon University
Linguistics Center) has at least 35 documents totally or partially written
in Mirandese - some of these can be read at http://mirandes.no.sapo.pt , the
official CLUL site for Mirandese Language. 

Faculdade de Letras da Universidade de Lisboa has at least 20 documents
tottaly or partially written in Mirandese. The institution can be reached
trough http://fl.ul.pt .

Biblioteca de Miranda do Douro (Miranda do Douro Library) has at least 30
documents totally or partially written in Mirandese.

Faculdade de Letras da Universidade do Porto has at least 10 documents
written in or regarding Mirandese. It can be reached through letras.up.pt .
addinfo = Mirandese is the second official language of Portugal, having been
given this status by the law 7/99, of january 1999. Mirandese is part of the
European Bureau for Less-Used Languages (EBLUL). Some more or less recent
and accurate information can be reached at the Euromosaic site:
http://www.uoc.edu/euromosaic/.

Mirandese is spoken in northeastern Portugal, in all the Miranda do Douro
District and part of the Vimioso, Mogadouro and Bragança disctricts. A low
estimated number of speakers is of about 12 000 to 15 000, being that it is
a hard number to calculate, as many of its most active speakers are among
big city communities.

Mirandese it thaught as an optional language up to the 5th grade of
secondary school. The Mirandese teaching programs have been approved by the
Portuguese Government. Hopefully, there will be a teacher formation course
at Universidade de Tras-os-Montes e Alto Douro (UTAD) from next lective year
on.

Mirandese has a standardized Ortographic Convention (Convenção Ortográfica
da Língua Mirandesa - COLM) since 1999, widely accepted by all speakers. The
Ortographic Convention doesn't include any caracters that can't be supported
by either text processors or internet tools, as it was developed with
didactic preocupations, using strictly the same carachters of the Portuguese
ortography, because currently children attend both Portuguese and Mirandese
classes. 

There has been one PhD and two MA thesis regarding Mirandese, of which, one
was written in Mirandese and presented in Universidad de Salamanca, with the
highest rating. There is a PhD thesis in Mirandese under preparation which
shall be concluded in 2004. 

Two Mirandese-Portuguese diccionaries are currently under development, being
that one of them is going to be pre-released by internet next february and
the other one will hopefully be published in next summer. The number of
original literature books in Mirandese published since late 1999 is of about
15.

There are various translation publications, namely a Portuguese poetry
anthology, originaly selected and translated to Mirandese, that will be
released late this year.

The Mirandese-speaking villages street plates are written in both Portuguese
and Mirandese. There has been an increasing number of people and
institutions using written mirandese in its affairs, namely by local
politics (Mirandese was sporadicly used in the Portuguese Government
Chamber) and in the areas of administration, tourism, publicity, and others.

Mirandese is increasingly being written in computers and in the net.
request_addition = ISO 639-1 and ISO 639-2 2_code_suggestion = md
3_code_suggestion = mir submit_name = José Pedro Cardona Moreno Ferreira
submit_email = [log in to unmask] 
submit_status = I am Mirandese speaker. I am a student of Linguistics at
Faculdade de Letras da Universidade de Lisboa. I am a member of the
Associaçon de Lhéngua Mirandesa (Mirandese Language Association). I am
currently working on a Mirandese-Portuguese diccionary, and I've been
attending a Terminology seminar with Doutora Margarita Correia (ILTEC, AiT),
focusing my work in Mirandese and Portuguese terms for traditional building
methods, materials and tools.

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