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JACVOTE  October 2004

JACVOTE October 2004

Subject:

Re: I am missing some ballots ...

From:

Eeva Murtomaa <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

ISO JAC Voting Member List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:48:47 +0300

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Håvard Hjulstad wrote:

  > JAC ballot 2004-10 - Sranan Tongo
>
> Please vote by 2004-10-22
>
> Please see additional information below.
>
> (A) Inclusion: Eeva Murtomaa
>
> (1)
   X__ I am in favour of including Sranan Tongo in the alpha-3 code table
> of ISO 639-2.
>
> ___ I am opposed to including Sranan Tongo in the alpha-3 code table of
> ISO 639-2.
>
> Comments:
>
> (B) Identifier:
>
> (2)
> _X__ I accept the identifier "srn".
>
> ___ I do not accept the identifier "srn".
>
> Comments:
>
> (C) Names:
>
> (3)
> __X_ I accept the English name "Sranan Tongo".
>
> ___ I do not accept the English name "Sranan Tongo".
>
> Comments:
>
> (4)
> _X__ I accept the French name "sranan tongo".
>
> ___ I do not accept the French name "sranan tongo".
>
> Comments:
>
> (5)
> ___ I accept the indigenous name "sranang".
>
> ___ I do not accept the indigenous name "sranang".
>
> Comments:
>
> (D) General comments:
>
> * * * *
>
> ORIGINAL SUBMISSION:
>
> This data was submitted on: Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 11:56:03
>
> lang_in_eng = Sranan Tongo
> lang_in_fre = idem
> ref_where_found_1 = Check University Library Amsterdam
> http://centauri.ic.uva.nl:8080/DB=1/ (keywords) lang_in_vern = sranang
> (spelling variant) ref_where_found_2 =
>
> trans_lit =
> evidence = The University Library has 94 publications
> see als ISBN 99914-64-06-9
> Titel: Een geschiedenis van de Surinaamse literatuur / Michaël Henricus
> Gertrudis van Kempen
> Deel: *Dl. V*Bijlagen, lijst van geraadpleegde archieven,
> bibliografie, summary, résumé / Michiel van Kempen
> Uitgever: Paramaribo : Okopipi
> Jaar: 2002
> addinfo = Spoken in Suriname, it is the lingua franca of this country
> with multiple languages.. Over 1 million speakers... A tradition of over
> two centuries in publishing in this language..
>
> Also spoken by Suriname people in the Netherlands (half a million?)
> request_addition = ISO 639-2 only 2_code_suggestion =
>
> 3_code_suggestion = srn
> submit_name = Tjebbe van Tijen
> submit_email = [log in to unmask]
> submit_status = Curator & Librarian at the University Library Amsterdam
> 1973-1990 Librarian in Surinam Paramibo (1990) Foundation for Scientific
> In formation
>
> --
> I am not the specialist in the field, but I will happy to make the
> contact... but while building a new cataloging system I was again
> irritated by the limitations of the ISO language lists and started to
> cinsider the much better listing of the Summer Institute of Linguistics
> instead and make an ISO 639 mapping to that.
>
> Also ther are other variants like Surinami-Hindi and Surinaams-Javaans
>
> * * * *
>
> ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:
>
> This has been submitted for discussion on the JAC email list. However,
> none of the members have made input to the discussion.
>
> The alpha-3 identifier "srn" is used for this item in draft 639-3.
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject:
> JAC ballot 2004-09 - Hindustani
> From:
> Håvard Hjulstad <[log in to unmask]>
> Date:
> Mon, 4 Oct 2004 15:03:39 +0200
> To:
> "ISO639 JAC Voting list ([log in to unmask])" <[log in to unmask]>
>
> To:
> "ISO639 JAC Voting list ([log in to unmask])" <[log in to unmask]>
>
>
> JAC ballot 2004-09 - Hindustani
>
> Please vote by 2004-10-22
>
> Please see additional information below.
>
> (A) Inclusion:
>
> (1)
> ___ I am in favour of including Hindustani in the alpha-3 code table of
> ISO 639-2.
>
> ___ I am opposed to including Hindustani in the alpha-3 code table of
> ISO 639-2.
>
> Comments:
>
> (B) Identifier:
>
> (2)
> ___ I accept the identifier "hiu".
>
> ___ I do not accept the identifier "hiu".
>
> Comments:
>
> (C) Names:
>
> (3)
> ___ I accept the English name "Hindustani".
>
> ___ I do not accept the English name "Hindustani".
>
> Comments:
>
> (4)
> ___ I accept the French name "hindustani".
>
> ___ I do not accept the French name "hindustani".
>
> Comments:
>
> (5)
> ___ I accept the indigenous name "hindustani".
>
> ___ I do not accept the indigenous name "hindustani".
>
> Comments:
>
> (D) General comments:
>
> * * * *
>
> ORIGINAL SUBMISSION:
>
> This data was submitted on: Wednesday, May 5, 2004 at 15:19:22
>
> lang_in_eng = Hindustani
> lang_in_fre = Hindustani
> ref_where_found_1 = Rashtriya Sahitya Akademi, India lang_in_vern =
> Hindustani ref_where_found_2 = Rashtriya Sahitya Akademi, India trans_lit =
>
> evidence = Rashtriya Sahitya Akademi, India (60-100)
> addinfo = About 40-50 % of speakers of the Hindi language actually speak
> Hindustani. The Government of India does not officially recognise it but
> this is the language from which Hindi and Urdu evolved. All over
> India(mainly northern parts) and Pakistan request_addition = ISO 639-1
> and ISO 639-2 2_code_suggestion = hn 3_code_suggestion = hnd submit_name
> = Arjun Aggarwal submit_email = [log in to unmask] submit_status =
> Speaker of the language and this is my first language.
>
> * * * *
>
> ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:
>
> This has been discussed on the JAC email list.
>
> Although "Hindustani" is normally thought to be the "superset" of Hindi,
> Urdu, and other variants, the statement in the submission "About 40-50 %
> of speakers of the Hindi language actually speak Hindustani" is somewhat
> strange.
>
> Still, the issue is probably whether a "macro-language" or "language
> group" identifier for Hindustani is needed in Part 2. Alternatively, the
> item may be encoded in the future Part 5.
>
> An alpha-2 identifier is proposed. The proposed identifier "hn" is
> available. However, there doesn't seem to be evidence to support the
> assignment of an alpha-2 identifier, an this is not balloted on.
>
> The proposed alpha-3 identifier (hnd) is taken by a different item in
> 639-3. This ballot proposes "hiu", which is available.
>

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