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Re: OpenDocument, MODS and Remaining Issues

From:

"Rebecca S. Guenther" <[log in to unmask]>

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Metadata Object Description Schema List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 17 Feb 2005 16:26:23 -0500

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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:

> This is why I remain worried about two primary issues:
>
> 1)  Names.
>
> If I cannot include more than one representation of a name in MODS,
> then I cannot reasonably support authors who work across languages.
> Using the extension element for this is not enough, because
> interoperability then becomes much more fragile.

This is where we see the MADS record come in. We use what we call an
authority record to detail variants of a name. Because of the size of
library catalogs, we have a long standing convention of picking one form
of the name that is used to bring together all the variants.  We use
cataloging rules to pick that form; these are complex, but generally it
uses the names in the vernacular, so that e.g. a German university would
use a German form of the name.

We realize that there may be one name preferred by one group over another
name. In this instance probably the best approach is to have authority
records in MADS with the variants. If you include the xml:lang attribute
with the various forms of name in the MADS record, you could then extract
the form you want by using a MADS record identifier (instead of a textual
form) in your MODS data. That could reference the MADS record and pull out
the form that you want.

Does this help, or am I misunderstanding what you're looking for?

I don't really have an answer about your second point; perhaps someone
else can weigh in here, but at least you have a possible approach.

Rebecca

 > > 2)  Markup within titles and abstracts.
>
> The most basic example are titles-within-titles (which could be
> supported with the addition of single element like xhtml:span), but the
> following more tricky example seems to me equally important long-term.
>
> >> I'm going to continue lobbying the LoC to allow some kind of
> >> additional markup in title fields, but it may be difficult because it
> >> can be a can-of-worms (e.g. why not just allow MathML?).
> >
> > My question is why not support mathml instead of just hand selecting
> > some of the features?  I understand that it will be harder for you to
> > implement but at least that's a well known standard albeit not widely
> > spread.
> >
> > You see, my problem is that where i work professors write papers that
> > sometimes contains some mathematics in the title.  Usually nothing too
> > fancy, for instance (in latex) $H_\infty$. However in the abstracts we
> > have some more complicated math in there.
> >
> > Could you please take that into consideration?
>
> I do realize this is a can-of-worms, but I dread the idea of having to
> write and maintain our own schema just to be able to support this
> (which has been supported in BibTeX since the beginning; if we won't
> have an XML bibligraphic representation that can do this, the Math and
> Physics people will never have any interest in it).
>
> One option is perhaps to do something like Atom does, where you define
> a few elements that allow additional foreign markup, and indicate what
> that markup is with a content attribute so supporting applications know
> if they can display it.  I suppose it could be embedded in the
> extension element if necessary, but it would be something like:
>
>         <title content="application/xhtml+mathml">blah, blah, blah</title>
>
> Bruce
>

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