Given present technology, some of this- label varieties, for instance, can
be attached to the catalog record. This could apply to anything
photographicable and which doesn't require searching on the data. This
could simplify the data input.
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From: "George Brock-Nannestad" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] More on cataloging
> From: Patent Tactics, George Brock-Nannestad
> It is reasonable to use the term "catalogue" to refer to a description of
> particular collection (and let us just discuss shellacs - they give plenty
> problems). Preferably the description should be to a level that when
> comparing a disc held at a different location, it would not be necessary
> see the actual object held by the particular collection.
> A discography usually relates to commercial records, and several versions
> the actual sound may exist somewhere, as an original negative (father), a
> positive (mother), a stamper (son), or a pressing. Or a dubbing! For each
> the above family there may be a take that is different from another take.
> we know that a popular record that was made by means of a stamper made
> the n-th time from a mother will have a more "worn" sound than an unworn
> record from an early stamper. Markings "in the wax" (although it was made
> metal) will tell you such things. Label varieties may further date the
> So, if the holder of a particular record wants to completely identify his
> copy, he or she will need quite a lot more information than that which is
> normally found in catalogues or discographies.
> Several useful indicators may be mentioned: the outer and inner diameters
> the recorded area may indicate dubbings and alternative takes (alternative
> those already known). The groove profile, run-in and run-out grooves, and
> the least: the type face or handwriting used for stamping the matrix
> These are physical markings that usually go unmentioned, although many
> collectors know about them. Rumble may identify a recording machine, as
> the groove pitch, as I have mentioned before on this list.
> In February 2005 there was an officially supported meeting of Scandinavian
> discographers and researchers with suitable information (including a
> contribution from me, presenting a systematic approach to the physical
> markings), as well as users of such information in Stockholm, and a report
> the meeting will be made available on the website
> Entering all this information into a catalogue or discography is strictly
> afficionado task, however the community at large would be helped
> Kind regards,
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