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ISOJAC November 2005

Subject:

Further information on Resian

From:

"Rebecca S. Guenther" <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

ISO 639 Joint Advisory Committee <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 29 Nov 2005 10:00:17 -0500

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See my response to his query about the request and also his additional
information.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 12:10:56 +0100 (CET)
From: [log in to unmask]
To: Rebecca S. Guenther <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: ISO 639-2 request for Resian

Let me ad the following as regards the tag "sl-IT":

As usual, the situation of Slovene as spoken in Italy is rather complex.
Standard Slovene is, for historical reasons, mostly confined to the provinces of
Gorizia and Trieste.
In the province of Udine, Slovene is mainly represented by dialectal varieties.
These dialects are, from North to South: ziljsko, rezijansko, tersko and
nadisko. Knowledge of Standard Slovene is less wide-spread here and mostly
confined to the nadisko area.
I think the colloquial form of Standard Slovene as spoken in the aforementioned
areas is the language variety that is most aptly tagged as "sl-IT". It would be
different form Standard Slovene as spoken in Slovenia mainly on the levels of
pronunciation and lexicon.
The dialects mentioned earlier on are highly divergent, not only from Standard
Slovene, but also among themselves. Two of them, rezijansko and nadisko, can
also boast a considerable number of publications in the local dialect. Exactly
for these two varieties at the moment IETF tags already exist, to wit "sl-rozaj"
and "sl-nedis".



Quoting "Rebecca S. Guenther" <[log in to unmask]>:

> I see that I passed it on to the secretary in July. He got rather
> behind,
> but I've now emailed him to ask him to initiate discussion.
>
> The thing about this request is, if it is a dialect of Slovenian spoken
> in
> Italy it would be coded for Slovenian with the country code for Italy.
> See
> the ISO 639-2 standard, section 4.1.3:
> http://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/normtext.html
>
> I see that there was some discussion with Peter Constable who helped
> develop the ISO 639-3 standard, and that the question of dialect came
> up. I do not see that this has been included in ISO 639-3.
>
> So we expect to have some discussion in the ISO 639 Joint Advisory
> Committee after the secretary initiates it.
>
> I (or the secretary-- Havard Hjulstad) will inform you about the
> decision
> when it is made.
>
> Again, I apologize for the delay in this.
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> ^^ Rebecca S. Guenther ^^
> ^^ Chair, ISO 639-2 Maintenance Agency ^^
> ^^ Senior Networking and Standards Specialist ^^
> ^^ Library of Congress ^^
> ^^ Washington, DC 20540-4402 ^^
> ^^ (202) 707-5092 (voice) (202) 707-0115 (FAX) ^^
> ^^ [log in to unmask] ^^
> ^^ ^^
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>
> On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 [log in to unmask] wrote:
>
> > The follow-up information I mentioned, which you will find in
> attachment, is an
> > excerpt from the discussion on the ietf-languages list that lead to my
> request
> > at ISO 639-2.
> >
> > Please, keep me informed of any progress the request is making.
> >
> > HS.
> >
> > Quoting "Rebecca S. Guenther" <[log in to unmask]>:
> >
> > > I do apologize for this delay. I thought I had passed on your
> request to
> > > our secretary some time ago. I am currently out of the office and
> need
> > > to
> > > check my records, which I will do on Monday. There was some
> discussion
> > > of
> > > this being a variant of Slovenian spoken in Italy, but I need to do
> some
> > > further research. You certainly have not been impatient and I am
> very
> > > sorry that we were not more attentive to your request. I will
> > > investigate
> > > when I get back to the office and let you know where this stands.
> > >
> > > I did find your original request, but not the followup that you
> > > mention.If
> > > you could forward that July correspondence to me, that would be
> helpful.
> > >
> > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > ^^ Rebecca S. Guenther ^^
> > > ^^ Chair, ISO 639-2 Maintenance Agency ^^
> > > ^^ Senior Networking and Standards Specialist ^^
> > > ^^ Library of Congress ^^
> > > ^^ Washington, DC 20540-4402 ^^
> > > ^^ (202) 707-5092 (voice) (202) 707-0115 (FAX) ^^
> > > ^^ [log in to unmask] ^^
> > > ^^ ^^
> > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 [log in to unmask] wrote:
> > >
> > > > Forgive me my impatience, but after filing a request in October
> 2003
> > > for Resian
> > > > and some follow-up information in July 2005 for that request, I
> would
> > > like to
> > > > know how things are progressing. After Northern, Eastern and
> Western
> > > Frisian and
> > > > Karelian you can't be that far away from the Alps.
> > > >
> > > > =================
> > > > Prof. Han Steenwijk
> > > > Universita di Padova
> > > > Dipartimento di Lingue e Letterature Anglo-Germaniche e Slave
> > > > Sezione di Slavistica
> > > > Via Beldomandi, 1
> > > > I-35139 Padova
> > > >
> > > > e-mail: [log in to unmask]
> > > > tel.: (39) 049 8278669
> > > > fax: (39) 049 8278679
> > > >
> > > > -------------------------------------------------
> > > > This mail sent through IMP: webmail.unipd.it
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > =================
> > Prof. Han Steenwijk
> > Universita di Padova
> > Dipartimento di Lingue e Letterature Anglo-Germaniche e Slave
> > Sezione di Slavistica
> > Via Beldomandi, 1
> > I-35139 Padova
> >
> > e-mail: [log in to unmask]
> > tel.: (39) 049 8278669
> > fax: (39) 049 8278679
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------
> > This mail sent through IMP: webmail.unipd.it
> >
>
>
>



=================
Prof. Han Steenwijk
Universita di Padova
Dipartimento di Lingue e Letterature Anglo-Germaniche e Slave
Sezione di Slavistica
Via Beldomandi, 1
I-35139 Padova

e-mail: [log in to unmask]
tel.: (39) 049 8278669
fax: (39) 049 8278679

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