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Re: About forcing them to buy the entire AACR2

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Shawne Miksa <[log in to unmask]>

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Discussion List for issues related to cataloging & metadata education & training <[log in to unmask]>

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Well said! I've had a few students insist on buying their own print
copy even though we use Cataloger's Desktop for the class. Even if they
aren't going to work as catalogers they do like to have it has a
reference book when needed.
 
 
 
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Shawne D. Miksa, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
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University of North Texas
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>>> Heidi Hoerman <[log in to unmask]> 12/11/05 12:21 PM >>>

One of the reasons I have them buy and bury themselves in AACR2 goes
beyond cataloging to understanding how to read and apply very complex
instructions -- and to help them understand all that might be needed to
develop a reliable metadata standard or other
data-specification-thingie. I find students are used to scanning what
they read and going with what they see at a glance. Reading AACR2
builds the discipline that is needed for all sorts of professional
endeavors.
   
  That said, still only those who take the descriptive cataloging
elective get this.
   
  hh

"Bloss, Marjorie" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
  I do require my students in our Introduction to Knowledge course
(which includes basic cataloging) to purchase AACR2. As an anecdotal
test, I've asked students to look at Catalogers Desktop (after they have
a flavor of AACR2) regarding their comfort level with it had they not
used the print copy previously. Almost unanimously they've said that
starting out with Catalogers Desktop would have been more confusing for
them than using AACR2 in print. I'm assuming that your students are in
the same boat as mine when they take the class. Few have done any
cataloging so this is a brand new experience for them (concepts,
terminology, ways of looking at organizing information/knowledge,
etc.).

I know there's the money-saving option of having them use the Concise
AACR2 and I've considered that, but I'd prefer to for them to have
access to all the rules.

Marjorie

Marjorie E. Bloss, Visiting Instructor
Graduate School of Library & Information Science
Dominican University
7900 West Division Street
River Forest, IL 60305
708-524-6468 (voice)
708-524-6657 (fax)
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From: Discussion List for issues related to cataloging & metadata
education & training on behalf of Jennifer Lang
Sent: Tue 12/6/2005 2:46 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: thank you about OCLC



Cheryl (and everyone),

Your email reminded me that I wanted to ask your
opinion: I'm a part-time lecturer at Rutgers. We have
access to Catalogers' Desktop for our students and I
need to submit my book order for the intro. cataloging
course I'll be teaching in the spring. I wonder if
those of you who do have access to it require your
students to purchase a print copy of AACR2 in addition
to having online access, or do you just rely on the
online. I've done it both ways, and I'm still trying
to decide which worked better.

Thanks.

Jennifer Lang


--- Cheryl Boettcher Tarsala
wrote:

> Educatters:
>
> A much-delayed thank you for all your interesting
> responses about
> using OCLC as a tool for cataloging instruction. I
> appreciate your
> insights.
>
> Cheryl
> --
> Cheryl Boettcher Tarsala
> Adjunct Assistant Professor
> LEEP Program, Graduate School of Library and
> Information Science
> University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
>
> [log in to unmask]
> [log in to unmask]
>
> The views expressed here are my own and not those of
> UIUC or GSLIS.
>


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