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Re: Quarter-inch splicing tabs

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Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]>

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Fri, 10 Mar 2006 21:20:32 -0500

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By the way, I have an EMITape block that sure is a dead ringer for an EdiTall but has no mention of 
Joel Tall's patent. I wonder how they got away with that? It's slightly longer and fatter than a 
regular S-3 block, but I can't see that as a patent-breaking point of difference since the 
tape-holding grooves and cut lines are the same.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Fine" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Quarter-inch splicing tabs


> It was Joel Tall. If I remember the story correctly, he was a CBS producer or editor in the early 
> days of tape. He invented a better way to splice tapes than a wooden block with markings on it. 
> See patent # 2599667.
>
> The best razor-man I ever saw was a radio commercial guy who's now retired. He would keep notes on 
> the details of ever word of every take, and his ear was trained so that he could hear during a 
> take THAT'S IT for one word out of 20 or 100 or more. He could splice together syllables into 
> words. One 30-second spot I saw him put together (with a not so great v/o guy) had over a hundred 
> splices. It sounded perfect, like the guy just nailed the take and walked away. My friend knew 
> better and has the gray hair to prove it. Like many older guys, he's not that comfortable on a 
> computer, so I helped him out with something he was doing for another friend, using a professional 
> voice-over guy, a couple of years ago. It took us a full day to record and edit the bit. His 
> comment was, it might have gone slightly faster with a blade -- which I chalk up as a credit to 
> his efficiency since we were not wasting time and Soundforge was very cooperative that day. He 
> admitted it's more intuitive to see a waveform on the screen and be able to drop markers and cut 
> and paste stuff (also easier to keep track of edit windows than 6-inch bits of tape).
>
> -- Tom Fine
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Lennick" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 7:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Quarter-inch splicing tabs
>
>
>> Jeffrey Kane wrote:
>>
>>> I found a bunch of them in Australia about a year ago and bought 15 or so.
>>> The place may still have them. I'll try to find their URL. They are labeled
>>> BASF and are in a small grey plastic dispenser. The other manufacturer was
>>> Editall. The tabs were branded XEDIT. Last ones I found were at Tape
>>> Warehouse in Atlanta but I think I bought all they had. They still have the
>>> 1/2", 3/4" and 1" tabs in stock if you don't mind cutting them down to size.
>>> The URL is HTTP://www.tapewarehouse.com. I think they're superior to the
>>> BASF tabs.
>>
>> Today's trivia question: Name the person whose surname is part of "Editall".
>> What did he do? Discuss.
>>
>> dl
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Lennick
>>> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 5:36 PM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Quarter-inch splicing tabs
>>>
>>> I used to be able to get those BASF dispensers from an AV distributor in
>>> Edmonton, but that was a LONG
>>> time ago (at least 20 years). Now it's whatever I can get from Tele-Tech,
>>> just north of Toronto, and the
>>> usual half-inch dispenser and a razor blade.
>>> dl
>>>
>>> Tom Fine wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi Marie:
>>> >
>>> > You are correct! It was BASF before Emtec was a glint in a beancounter's
>>> eye. I have one with a BASF
>>> > sticker and one with a Gotham sticker over the BASF sticker. Both are
>>> running low.
>>> >
>>> > -- Tom Fine
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "Marie O'Connell" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 5:39 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Quarter-inch splicing tabs
>>> >
>>> > >I am holding one of those very 1/4 inch splicing dispensers in my hands
>>> > > now.....BUT, the label has fallen off, so I can't tell you who made
>>> them.  I
>>> > > have a feeling it was EMTEC....but.....my memory fails me.  Otherwise, I
>>> use
>>> > > the blue Quantegy tape and have it on a tape dispenser and just cut off
>>> what
>>> > > I need with a razor blade.  I think the blue is archivally more
>>> acceptable
>>> > > and least sticky than the really handy dispenser one!
>>> > >
>>> > > Cheers
>>> > >
>>> > > Marie
>>> > >
>>> > > Marie O'Connell
>>> > > Sound Archivist/Audio Engineer/Sound Consultant
>>> > > The Center For Oral History & Cultural Heritage
>>> > > The University Of Southern Mississippi
>>> > > 118 College Drive #5175
>>> > > Hattiesburg, MS, 39401-406
>>> > > Ph: 601-266-6514
>>> > > Fax: 601-266-6217
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > -----Original Message-----
>>> > > From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
>>> > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tom Fine
>>> > > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 3:45 PM
>>> > > To: [log in to unmask]
>>> > > Subject: [ARSCLIST] Quarter-inch splicing tabs
>>> > >
>>> > > Does anyone make/sell quarter-inch splicing tabs anymore? I'm talking
>>> about
>>> > > the white tabs you put
>>> > > over a splice-cut on quarter-inch tape. Back in the tape heyday, places
>>> like
>>> > > Gotham Audio used to
>>> > > give away tab dispensers at trade shows. I thought I had stockpiled
>>> enough,
>>> > > but no. I much prefer
>>> > > the tabs to regular blue splicing tape, tabs take much less time to peel
>>> and
>>> > > stick. I think someone
>>> > > still makes sheets of cassette-splicing tabs, so do the same folks make
>>> 1/4"
>>> > > versions?
>>> > >
>>> > > -- Tom Fine 

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