Hi Marie:
By the time I "went digital", which was 1999 or thereabouts, editing had evolved to where I was
blown away by how easy it was. My first digi-editor was SoundForge 4 and my first job with it was
splicing and dicing spoken word programming. After one or two programs' learning curve, it was
definitely faster for me than the blade, and I was pretty good but not near legendary efficient with
the blade. I still like to splice in leader between tracks when I made myself a 2-track of
something. Definitely agree there's something gratifying about actually rocking the reels and
marking the point, but those waveform editors sure are fast and precise.
-- Tom Fine
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marie Azile O'Connell" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Quarter-inch splicing tabs
> There was something comforting about editing the 'old' way. I used to love
> moving both reels back and forth to get the exact position, mark it, cut and
> splice, and have it as perfect as can be. But, I love a challenge! The
> learning curve was digital, and it did take longer, and at times I would
> despair! But, 'seeing' the waveform was so cool, and after a while that came
> easy to do. I almost feel like I am cheating. Progress......
>
> Cheers
>
> Marie
>
>
> Quoting Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]>:
>
>> It was Joel Tall. If I remember the story correctly, he was a CBS producer or
>> editor in the early
>> days of tape. He invented a better way to splice tapes than a wooden block
>> with markings on it. See
>> patent # 2599667.
>>
>> The best razor-man I ever saw was a radio commercial guy who's now retired.
>> He would keep notes on
>> the details of ever word of every take, and his ear was trained so that he
>> could hear during a take
>> THAT'S IT for one word out of 20 or 100 or more. He could splice together
>> syllables into words. One
>> 30-second spot I saw him put together (with a not so great v/o guy) had over
>> a hundred splices. It
>> sounded perfect, like the guy just nailed the take and walked away. My friend
>> knew better and has
>> the gray hair to prove it. Like many older guys, he's not that comfortable on
>> a computer, so I
>> helped him out with something he was doing for another friend, using a
>> professional voice-over guy,
>> a couple of years ago. It took us a full day to record and edit the bit. His
>> comment was, it might
>> have gone slightly faster with a blade -- which I chalk up as a credit to his
>> efficiency since we
>> were not wasting time and Soundforge was very cooperative that day. He
>> admitted it's more intuitive
>> to see a waveform on the screen and be able to drop markers and cut and paste
>> stuff (also easier to
>> keep track of edit windows than 6-inch bits of tape).
>>
>> -- Tom Fine
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Lennick" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 7:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Quarter-inch splicing tabs
>>
>>
>> > Jeffrey Kane wrote:
>> >
>> >> I found a bunch of them in Australia about a year ago and bought 15 or
>> so.
>> >> The place may still have them. I'll try to find their URL. They are
>> labeled
>> >> BASF and are in a small grey plastic dispenser. The other manufacturer
>> was
>> >> Editall. The tabs were branded XEDIT. Last ones I found were at Tape
>> >> Warehouse in Atlanta but I think I bought all they had. They still have
>> the
>> >> 1/2", 3/4" and 1" tabs in stock if you don't mind cutting them down to
>> size.
>> >> The URL is HTTP://www.tapewarehouse.com. I think they're superior to the
>> >> BASF tabs.
>> >
>> > Today's trivia question: Name the person whose surname is part of
>> "Editall".
>> > What did he do? Discuss.
>> >
>> > dl
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
>> >> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Lennick
>> >> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 5:36 PM
>> >> To: [log in to unmask]
>> >> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Quarter-inch splicing tabs
>> >>
>> >> I used to be able to get those BASF dispensers from an AV distributor in
>> >> Edmonton, but that was a LONG
>> >> time ago (at least 20 years). Now it's whatever I can get from Tele-Tech,
>> >> just north of Toronto, and the
>> >> usual half-inch dispenser and a razor blade.
>> >> dl
>> >>
>> >> Tom Fine wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Hi Marie:
>> >> >
>> >> > You are correct! It was BASF before Emtec was a glint in a
>> beancounter's
>> >> eye. I have one with a BASF
>> >> > sticker and one with a Gotham sticker over the BASF sticker. Both are
>> >> running low.
>> >> >
>> >> > -- Tom Fine
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: "Marie O'Connell" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 5:39 PM
>> >> > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Quarter-inch splicing tabs
>> >> >
>> >> > >I am holding one of those very 1/4 inch splicing dispensers in my
>> hands
>> >> > > now.....BUT, the label has fallen off, so I can't tell you who made
>> >> them. I
>> >> > > have a feeling it was EMTEC....but.....my memory fails me. Otherwise,
>> I
>> >> use
>> >> > > the blue Quantegy tape and have it on a tape dispenser and just cut
>> off
>> >> what
>> >> > > I need with a razor blade. I think the blue is archivally more
>> >> acceptable
>> >> > > and least sticky than the really handy dispenser one!
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Cheers
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Marie
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Marie O'Connell
>> >> > > Sound Archivist/Audio Engineer/Sound Consultant
>> >> > > The Center For Oral History & Cultural Heritage
>> >> > > The University Of Southern Mississippi
>> >> > > 118 College Drive #5175
>> >> > > Hattiesburg, MS, 39401-406
>> >> > > Ph: 601-266-6514
>> >> > > Fax: 601-266-6217
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > > From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
>> >> > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tom Fine
>> >> > > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 3:45 PM
>> >> > > To: [log in to unmask]
>> >> > > Subject: [ARSCLIST] Quarter-inch splicing tabs
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Does anyone make/sell quarter-inch splicing tabs anymore? I'm talking
>> >> about
>> >> > > the white tabs you put
>> >> > > over a splice-cut on quarter-inch tape. Back in the tape heyday,
>> places
>> >> like
>> >> > > Gotham Audio used to
>> >> > > give away tab dispensers at trade shows. I thought I had stockpiled
>> >> enough,
>> >> > > but no. I much prefer
>> >> > > the tabs to regular blue splicing tape, tabs take much less time to
>> peel
>> >> and
>> >> > > stick. I think someone
>> >> > > still makes sheets of cassette-splicing tabs, so do the same folks
>> make
>> >> 1/4"
>> >> > > versions?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > -- Tom Fine
>>
>
>
> Marie O'Connell
> Sound Archivist/Sound Engineer/Sound Consultant
> Center for Oral History & Cultural Heritage
> University of Southern Mississippi
> Phone: 601-266-6514
> Mobile: 601-329-6911
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