I really need to slow down!.
That should be WLX-1608-2, not 16080-2, and yes, they are both commercial
The first from album set MM-184 (record number 72291-D, sides 1/6;
the other from Columbia album set M-184, record number 68125-D
At 03:33 PM 4/6/2006, you wrote:
>Should this be WLX 1609-2 rather than 16080-2?
>Are they both on commercial labels or is/are they test pressing(s)?
>These are non-US masters. Often the European issues carried no take
>numbers at all.
>I'd suggest trying to synchronize one against the other as David Hamilton
>demonstrated some years ago. If they can be made to lock, they are the
>same take. If not, different.
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Aurora Perez" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 5:50 PM
>Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Alternate take, "part IV", Stravinsky: "Musique de
>l'Histoire du Soldat"
>>At 05:51 PM 4/5/2006, you wrote:
>>>Are you sure it's the same music? Columbia usually used further take
>>>numbers for additional takes rather than assigning a new matrix number.
>>I'm sorry, I meant part VI not part IV. The title is "Triumphal March of
>>The Stanford Archive has both takes: WLX-16080-2 and WAX-1608-1-A-F-1.
>>Yes, it's the same music according to the label. Maybe I should listen
>>to it to be sure.
>>I don't have access to the equipment right now. I'll check later.
>>The matrix numbers for the complete set of recordings of the Soldier's
>>Tale are WLX-1599 through 1602 and WLX-1607/ WLX-1608.
>>What Stanford has:
>>The records in Columbia album set M-184 include:
>>The individual records are:
>>and the variant take from album set MM-184 (record number 72291-D, sides
>>The researcher says, "According to the Stuart discography, the released
>>takes for both WLX1602 and WLX1608 were second takes. Do you have an
>>alternate take for side 4 (WLX1602-2)?"
>>We do not have the alternate take for WLX-1602-2.
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Aurora Perez" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 7:54 PM
>>>Subject: [ARSCLIST] Alternate take, "part IV", Stravinsky: "Musique de
>>>l'Histoire du Soldat"
>>>>I have a researcher who is looking for the alternate take to Columbia
>>>>matrix WLX-1602-2, "part 4" of Stravinsky: Musique de l'Histoire du
>>>>Soldat, conducted by the composer, which may have been released on any
>>>>one of the following Columbia pressings.
>>>>Columbia 68124-D from set M-184
>>>>72293-D from set MM-184
>>>>The Archive of Recorded Sound at Stanford has the other alternate take
>>>>to WLX-1608-2 (i.e. WAX-1608-1-A-F-1 on record number 72291-D in album
>>>>MM-184) but not the alternate take for WLX-1602-2.
>>>>If anyone has this alternate take, please contact the researcher
>>>>Michael Stanley <[log in to unmask]>. Also, please post to the list
>>>>for the enlightenment of all.
>>>>Stanford Archive of Recorded Sound
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