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Re: SRU Question re XML Processing

From:

Tony Hammond <[log in to unmask]>

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SRU (Search and Retrieve Via URL) Implementors

Date:

Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:49:34 +0100

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Hi:

I guess if that is the real position then we could support SRU URL in and
SRU XML out for power users, and SRU in and arbitrary XHTML out for regular
end users in an MGX sort of way.

Wouldn't that mean we could offer full SRU compliance for those who could
consume the SRU XML, and at least standardize the request half on an SRU
querystring?

We are looking to achieve a reasonable middle ground here to at least rachet
our search interface up towards some kind of standards compliance.

Cheers,

Tony


On 25/4/06 16:39, "LeVan,Ralph" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:25/4/06 16:39

> I'm afraid it doesn't seem to be SRU if you return HTML.  When you return a
> stylesheet, you still return XML and have the browser render the XML to HTML.
> 
> I'm afraid that you're closer to OpenSearch than you are to SRU, but
> OpenSearch doesn't define a standard query grammar.
> 
> Rob Sanderson has had discussions with the OpenSearch folks about support for
> CQL.  He might have a suggestion for you.
> 
> Ralph
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: SRU (Search and Retrieve Via URL) Implementors [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of Tony Hammond
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:12 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: SRU Question re XML Processing
>> 
>> (This is a copy of a private mail I sent to Ray D. over a couple months
>> ago
>> and to which he graciously replied, but also suggested that I send to the
>> list to get a wider perspective. Apologies for not mailing sooner but got
>> sucked up into some other projects, though ready to refocus on this now.
>> Appreciate any guidance. And very much hoping the answer is "Yes!" :)
>> 
>> Hi:
>> 
>> Got a question that you may be able to help us out with. We (NPG) are
>> looking to make available some HTML snippets that folks can cut and paste
>> onto their own websites which would provide a search textbox on their
>> pages
>> to run against our own search indexes and return (in first instance) our
>> standard HTML result pages. I have been thinking that we shouldn¹t really
>> be
>> using our ASP search syntax (because proprietary, obscure, account in
>> plaintext, etc.) but rather a Œstandard¹ search syntax.
>> 
>> Naturally SRU springs to mind (as does OpenSearch).  Mapping (either) URI
>> querystring is trivial. Question I have is more particular. SRU returns
>> XML
>> to the user (with possibly a stylesheet reference attached). Is it
>> acceptable (in the SRU scheme of things) to allow for the possibility of
>> an
>> intermediary (in this case, our own server) to render the XML and deliver
>> HTML back to the user. Does that break the spirit of SRU? I could imagine
>> that initially (since we anyway deliver HTML) that one could have a Œfaux¹
>> stylesheet reference which could be applied to the result set and serve up
>> HTML to the user. We do also have the ability to acquire raw XML back from
>> the ASP, and so could also provide alternate Œsnippets¹ which would allow
>> for querying with SRU and getting native SRU XML docs back, or with (real)
>> stylesheets to get other renderings, e.g. (X)HTML includes, RSS, etc.
>> 
>> Does this make sense in the SRU context, to allow for the possibility that
>> a
>> server could intermediate the SRU return on the basis of a stylesheet
>> reference included in the XML document (whether real or faux). And with a
>> stylesheet reference we could just return native SRU XML? I don¹t want to
>> run against the spirit of SRU. (And still need to catch up with latest
>> version of OpenSearch.)
>> 
>> Thanks for any comments you may have time for.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Tony
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