Could we please expedite voting on this one? Someone at the Library of
Congress is waiting for it.
The last comment was on Jan. 17 indicating that this is really more a
macro-language. I don't still have it in my email but it may be accessed
at:
http://listserv.loc.gov/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0601&L=ISOJAC&D=0&I=-3&X=58EA7A7253DE6B92CEP=1033
If there aren't more comments, could Havard please send to the JAC for
balloting?
Rebecca
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006, [iso-8859-1] Håvard Hjulstad wrote:
> Dear JAC members,
>
> We have received a proposal to include "Zaza, Dimili, Dimli, Kirdki, Kirmanjki, Zazaki" in ISO 639-2 (alpha-3 identifier).
>
> Ethnologue and ISO 639-3 has two related items:
> (1) diq = Dimli; Dimili; Zazaki; Southern Zaza; Zaza;
> (2) kiu = Kirmanjki; Zaza; Northern Zaza; Zazaki; Alevica; Dimilki; Dersimki; So-Bê; Zonê Ma.
> The current proposal relates to item (1), which is the "larger" variant (in terms of number of users). I interpret the proposal as an "upgrade" of "diq" from 639-3 to 639-2. I would propose that we retain the identifier "diq" (proposer asks for "zaz", which is used for a different language in 639-3).
>
> Linguasphere has:
> 58-AAA = Kurdi+Kurmanji
> 58-AAA-a = Kurmanji+Kurmanjiki
> 58-AAA-aa = Kurmanji
> 58-AAA-ab = Kurmanjiki
> 58-AAA-b = Dimli+Gurani
> 58-AAA-ba = Dimli
> The item in question in most likely the last in this list.
>
> The language is an Indo-European language (Western Iranian) used in Turkey.
>
> Discussion please, until Friday 2 February 2006.
>
> Best regards,
> Håvard
>
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> This data was submitted on: Thursday, November 3, 2005 at 11:15:07
>
> lang_in_eng = Zaza, Dimili, Dimli, Kirdki, Kirmanjki, Zazaki
>
> lang_in_fre =
>
> ref_where_found_1 =
>
> lang_in_vern = Dimili, Dimli, Kirdki, Kirmanjki, Zazaki
>
> ref_where_found_2 = Ethnologue (Dimli; variants: Dimili, Zazaki, Southern Zaza); Compendium linguarum iranicarum, 1989: p. 338, etc. (Zaza; variants: Kirmanjki, Kirdki, Dimli); Todd, T.L. A grammar of Dimili (also known as Zaza); Ethnic groups in the Republic of Turkey, 1989: p. 122, etc. (Zaza; variants: Zazaki, Dimla, Dimli)
>
> trans_lit =
>
> evidence = Library of Congress (50)
>
> addinfo = 1,000,000 in Turkey (1999 WA). Between 1.5 and 2.5 million speakers (including all dialects) (1998 Paul). East central Turkey, mainly in Elazig, Bingol, and Diyarbakir provinces, upper courses of the Euphrates, Kizilirmaq, and Murat rivers. Also spoken in Germany. [source: ETHNOLOGUE, via WWW, 3 Nov. 2005]
>
> request_addition = ISO 639-2 only
>
> 2_code_suggestion =
>
> 3_code_suggestion = zaz
>
> submit_name = Michael L. Chyet
>
> submit_email = [log in to unmask]
>
> submit_status = Cataloger of books in language; Academic/language teacher; Non-native speaker of language
>
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>
> Subject: Language code for Zaza
>
> Hello there,
>
> I've been cataloging some sound materials that are either in part or entirely in the Zaza language. From my various initial researches it does appear to be considered a distinct language, related to Kurdish and Persian, but having its own identity. Among other sources, the Wikipedia lists the Zazaki language, and there's an LC subject heading for Zaza language. There is no MARC code for the language, however, and I would like to propose that one be added.
>
> There appears to be quite a flock of names for the language, including, Zaza, Zazaki, Dimli and Kirdki. Please let me know if I could provide you with more information.
>
> Many thank,
> Jim Soe Nyun
> James L. SOE NYUN
> Head, Music & Media Cataloging
> Metadata Services Department
> Geisel Library
> UCSD Libraries
> 9500 GIlman Drive, Dpt. 0175-K
> La Jolla, CA 92093-0175
>
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