Here, here, I fail to see the analogy also. If one has been to
Western Europe or Japan and has lived at all with "eyes open", there
are a lot of things they do right or even better than "non-welfare"
states. In fact, they seem "progressive" not conservative, and in
many cases (Sweden, Japan, Germany, etc.) they are, in fact, on the
cutting edge of technological, environmental, and other kinds of
innovations, not in the doldrums of bureaucratic stasis and
decay. No place is perfect, but these are not Soviet bureaucracies.
It IS weird to draw such an analogy.
Peter Fletcher, Tulane Univ.
At 10:53 AM 5/25/2006, you wrote:
>i have to agree that the illustrative analogy comparing
>"cataloging" to the "welfare states of Europe" (france and Germany)
>is a bit insulting. it is even weird. as opposed to what?
>the non-welfare states of the United States, Vietnam, or China?
>how about some metrics.
>infant mortality rates from the cia world factbook:
>france rank 215 4.21 deaths per 1,000 live births
>germany rank 216 4.12 deaths per 1,000 live births
>united states rank 184 6.43 deaths per 1,000 live births
>vietnam rank 93 25.14 deaths per 1,000 live births
>china rank 103 23.12 deaths per 1,000 live birhts
>incarceration rates (world prison population list, 6th ed) france 91
>per 100,000 population
>germany 96 per 100,000 population
>united states 714 per 100,000 population
>vietnam 71 per 100,000 population
>china 118 per 100,000 population
>i fail to see any analogy between welfare states and cataloging.
>what's the point? should we (catalogers) all try to be less comfortable
>and less secure? will that improve infant mortality rates
>or prison incarceration rates? -ralph p.
>A. Ralph Papakhian, Indiana University Music Library
>Bloomington, IN 47405 812/855-2970 [log in to unmask]
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>On Wed, 24 May 2006, David Banush wrote:
>>To use an imperfect but illustrative analogy, cataloging today
>>resembles the welfare states of Europe. Like contemporary Germany
>>or France, it is marked by high labor costs and a high degree of
>>regulation; is heavily bureaucratized in the form of a vast array
>>of professional groups and institutional committees; and it has a
>>rapidly aging population. Its prospects for long-term growth in a
>>very dynamic global information economy are dim unless significant
>>structural changes are made. Like many political and business
>>leaders in Europe, most library leaders have identified the
>>problems and know what needs to be done, at least generally. But
>>they also realize that for the most part, the staff do not want
>>change. Like life in the European welfare states, the professional
>>environment for catalogers has been comfortable and secure ....