Sherry Vellucci wrote:
>As Nina said, here at Rutgers we do encourage understanding of the
>theoretical foundations and principles of information organization. Our
>Organizing Information course covers a broad range of organization systems.
>It is also one of our lead courses. We both try to give the students and
>integrated view of IO, not only as it relates to cataloging and indexing,
>but how it relates to information retrieval and database design as well.
>I also teach a Cat. & Class course that combines the theoretical and the
>practical, but I do emphasize the theoretical. In class we talk about
>primarily the theories, principles and issues (with great discussions about
>they apply to real life. The assignments are hands-on work with OCLC,
>Catalogers' Desktop and Classification Web and the students have a pretty
>good idea about the tools (paper & digital) and resources necessary to do
>the job. Things are changing so rapidly in our field (e.g., RDA, FRBR,
>metadata, XML, METS, etc) that I think we are doing our students a
>disservice if we teach C & C like a workshop and focus primarily on the
>"doing" in class.
>Dr. Sherry L. Vellucci
>School of Communication, Information and Library Studies
>4 Huntington Street
>New Brunswick, NJ 08901
>732-932-7500 ext. 8232
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>Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 10:48 AM
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>Subject: Re: On My Mind (AL, June/July issue)
>At Rutgers we take the view that for students who do not intend to be
>cataloguers, it is most important to understand the concepts behind
>organization of information (e.g., vocabulary control, human vs.
>exhaustivity and specificity, metadata standards, evaluation, ...). If
>students concentrate on learning the fine details of a classification
>system (understanding the fine details of a particular record format or
>punctuation), they tend not to obtain this higher level understanding.
>Qualified professionals should appreciate the importance of such
>details and be able to learn specific classifcation schemes fairly quickly.
> Rutgers University SCILS
>Jim Alberts wrote:
>>I haven't read the article, but given that our only required
>>"information organization" course (in 1999) barely touched on the
>>basics of practical cataloging (one half of one semester devoted to
>>the theory behind descriptive cataloging with some training in ISBD)
>>and a mention of the authority file, someone could have easily
>>graduated and not known (or more likely, eagerly forgotten) what AACR
>>stood for, what the authority file was, what OCLC was, etc., etc. We
>>had an "advanced cataloging" elective class which was very good, but
>>almost everyone who took it was already working as a cataloger.
>>So yes, in my experience, it would be very easy to graduate library
>>school with no practical cataloging knowledge; most of my classmates
>>did just that (and an "I don't know and I don't wanna know" attitude
>>towards bibliographic control was very common).
>>Asst. Music Librarian
>>At 01:23 AM 6/14/2006, you wrote:
>>>Has anyone else read the "On My Mind" piece by Arthur Marx in this
>>>month's American Libraries? In it, he speaks of his experience
>>>learning cataloging on the job where he is the only cataloger. He's
>>>certainly not the first MLS graduate to find himself unexpectedly
>>>hired as a cataloger, but it's kind of surprising he was hired in a
>>>world of job ads that demand "two years experience."
>>>Do you think his lack of cataloging knowledge coming out of a basic
>>>cataloging course is only to be expected? Are our across-the-board
>>>average outcomes this low so that a student passing a basic
>>>cataloging course doesn't really have the punctuation down, or
>>>understand an authority record?
>>>Cheryl Boettcher Tarsala
>>>Adjunct Assistant Professor
>>>LEEP Program, Graduate School of Library and Information Science
>>>University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
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>>>The views expressed here are my own and not those of UIUC or GSLIS.