I just came up with another more recent incarnation of Phillip's
Pioneer. It's the Pioneer DV-588A-S DVD/SACD. The price is right, and
the comments are glowing on more than one site:
It's amazing to me that the Japanese can manufacture so many versions of
products in such short time periods. I wonder how they can do this and
make it economically profitable.
Tom Fine wrote:
> Well, good luck with it Rod. The Toshiba has performed like a champ
> for 2 years here. Sounds like those two reviewers (out of how many
> units sold? -- people never take the time to say nice things, which is
> why I rarely trust "user opinions" on things) got bad units, maybe
> gray goods or the like. I have an older (5+ years) Toshiba DVD/CD
> player that gets used daily at work and has never had trouble.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Stephens" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 3:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Longevity
>> Hi All,
>> Thanks to Phillip and Tom for input on the units below. I've done
>> some follow up research on Epinions and came up with these
>> evaluations on both units.
>> Tom Fine wrote:
>>> Hi Rod:
>>> Toshiba used to make an incredible little unit. I think they got out
>>> of the SACD business. The Toshiba I have, model #SD-4960, plays SACD
>>> quite well (not quite as well as my Marantz player, but this thing
>>> cost less than 1/3 as much), DVD's very well and audio CD
>>> surprisingly well (ie they didn't cheap out on the D-A converter or
>>> the analog stage after it). I bought it after reading a very good
>>> review somewhere. I think it cost $120 on sale, perhaps on sale
>>> because it was being phased out.
>> Tom, I'm sure that this was a good unit for you, but it seems to have
>> laid an egg for some who have purchased it more recently:
>> I appreciated your general comments below on SACDs in general, but it
>> looks like the Panasonic that Phillip recommended seems to currently
>> win out on both cost an user appreciation:
>> However, I'm still checking out the competition.
>> Thanks again to both of you for your input.
>> Rod Stephens
>>> I am not 100% on this, but the impression I got is that SACD laid an
>>> egg in the mass market and thus lower-end multi-format players are
>>> not including in this latest year or last year's models.
>>> My own opinion is that some SACD discs sound really wonderful, and
>>> some multi-channel mixes are worthwhile but overall it's not worth a
>>> lot of extra expense (particularly since it's a submerging format)
>>> and there wouldn't even have been a window of opportunity if there
>>> were better CD mastering and remastering engineers out there. And,
>>> since the same guys also do SACD, the same percentage of SACD
>>> releases are really excellent (ie small percentage).
>>> One man's opinion, etc.
>>> -- Tom Fine