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Re: Community Radio

From:

Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]>

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Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 13 Jul 2006 16:06:36 -0400

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Uh, yeah, I have. 128K MP3 stream is much better than the norm, but anything like drums and 
higher-freq instruments sound terrible. Plus, every time I've tuned it, the music is awful. I'll try 
tuning in more frequently and see if there are any programs I like.

In my world, that 128K MP3 stream would be BARE MINIMUM for spoken word. Music would need about 
twice the resolution, preferably more.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roger and Allison Kulp" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Community Radio


> Obviously,you've never listened to WFMU !
>
> Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:  By the way, not an indictment of that individual 
> station. Almost ALL webcasts are too bad quality
> for me to stand listening to. I don't do AM radio either, but for different reasons. Actually, I 
> do
> very little FM, either, because it sounds mostly terrible due to bad content and bad processing.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tom Fine"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 5:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Community Radio
>
>
>> Unfortunately, even its "higher quality" webcast is full of digi-swish and hiss. Unlistenable to
>> my ears. I just can't do digital noise and distortion. It's like hands scraping on the blackboard
>> to me. Others don't seem to mind it as much.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Russ Hamm"
>> To:
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:57 AM
>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Community Radio
>>
>>
>>> My local favorite is KSDS - Jazz 88.3 broadcast from the campus of San Diego City College. They
>>> have been broadcasting jazz (yes, real jazz) 24/7 for the past 30 years or so. Every Tuesday
>>> evening since 1977 they have broadcast a live performance show called "Jazz Live". On July 25,
>>> the show will feature pianist and singer Floyd Dixon and will honor my friend Lou Curtiss who 
>>> has
>>> hosted his Sunday evening radio show "Jazz Roots" for 20 years now. By the way, they webcast 
>>> 24/7
>>> also at http://www.jazz88online.org/
>>>
>>> Just click on the "Listen Now" link.
>>>
>>> Russ
>>>
>>> <><><><><><><><><>
>>>
>>>
>>>>There might very well be one. They are scattered all over, tiny little
>>>>stations with low watt transmitters generally, although some have fairly
>>>>strong signals - you can pick up WAIF on the outskirts of Cincinnati even a
>>>>little better than in the city. There is WFMU in NYC, which is by no means a
>>>>small player in the game. The politics of many of these stations tend to
>>>>veer to the left, which is one reason why they don't get listened to as much
>>>>as maybe they should. Music programming is all over the map, and you might
>>>>tune in one time and hear something you really, really hate, but on the same
>>>>station there might be some old timer spinning records from the 1920s, say,
>>>>on a Sunday afternoon.
>>>>
>>>>Jerry Fabris, on this list, has an excellent show on WFMU, which plays
>>>>records from the Edison National Historic Site. I love it and listen to it
>>>>when I can.
>>>>
>>>>I was hoping to find some single listing of all the various "community" (i.e
>>>>as opposed to "public") radio venues, but there isn't one. There is a
>>>>listing at the NFCB (National Foundation of Community Broadcasters) site,
>>>>but not all stations are necessarily members of this organization - WCBN and
>>>>WFMU are not, for example. It doesn't matter now as to low wattage - if you
>>>>have a web-stream, that levels the playing field, as anyone with a computer
>>>>can listen to the programming.
>>>>
>>>>These stations, in a lot of cases, have been around for decades, a leftover
>>>>from the 60s and 70s approach to expanding access to media in the public
>>>>interest. The RIAA have not come after us full-bore quite yet - I don't know
>>>>the details, but right now a decision as how to collect from stations like
>>>>WCBN is tabled. We're such small potatoes, raising our own money from
>>>>donations and a slim amount of underwriting, that it isn't a priority. And
>>>>it is a problem in terms of enforcing the DMCA; a fair number of community
>>>>stations are based on Indian Reservations, and to pay to the RIAA the
>>>>equivalent of what they want could consume the entire revenue stream for an
>>>>Indian station for a calendar year, and he government didn't want to do
>>>>that. So now the decision is on hold.
>>>>
>>>>We have set up a system whereby we record every music track played into a
>>>>database, so if they come calling, we're ready. So far as I know, no one has
>>>>shown up from the RIAA or any other concern at WCBN just yet. Is there
>>>>anyone else on this list who volunteers on community radio?
>>>>
>>>>By the way, my show airs every other Thursday morning from 6-9am ET at
>>>>www.wcbn.org
>>>>I do it next week, my collaborator Keith Larsen does it this week, and he
>>>>also plays a lot of obscure stuff. I'm hoping to sign him up with ARSC this
>>>>year as he is very interested in attending the Wisconsin conference.
>>>>
>>>>David N. Lewis
>>>>Assistant Classical Editor, All Music Guide
>>>>
>>>>My life is the clearest proof that if you have talent, determination and
>>>>luck, you will make it in the end: Never Give Up. - Sir Georg Solti
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
>>>>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tom Fine
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 10:37 PM
>>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Mercury co-founder Irving Green passes
>>>>
>>>>How do these stations afford to pay the yearly royalties to ASCAP and BMI?
>>>>Very curious -- and sure
>>>>wish there was one in this neck of the woods!
>>>>
>>>>-- Tom Fine
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "David Lewis"
>>>>To:
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 3:29 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Mercury co-founder Irving Green passes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I'm a community volunteer radio programmer on WCBN-FM 88.3 in Ann Arbor,
>>>>based out of the University of Michigan. Many might feel that this is "there
>>>>for the grace of God go I" type radio, but I have been on community radio,
>>>>off and on, for a period of nearly 28 years - I was on WAIF-FM Cincinnati
>>>>for many years before I joined WCBN.
>>>>
>>>>If you show up, have a broadcast license and can operate the gear, then they
>>>>don't worry about what you play, as long as there's no foul language.
>>>>Musically you can play practically anything. We do play a lot of classical
>>>>music on the station, it takes up roughly half of my bi-weekly three-hour
>>>>program, and others will even mix it in with the pop, jazz and other things
>>>>that they play.
>>>>
>>>>My program is on the web, and I have listeners both locally and abroad. I
>>>>get fan email from places like Taiwan and Scotland.
>>>>
>>>>David N. Lewis
>>>>Assistant Classical Editor, All Music Guide
>>>>1168 Oak Valley Dr.
>>>>Ann Arbor, MI 48108
>>>>734 887 8145
>>>>
>>>>My life is the clearest proof that if you have talent, determination and
>>>>luck, you will make it in the end: Never Give Up. - Sir Georg Solti
>>>
>>> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
>>>
>>> Russ Hamm
>>> Ed Tech Specialist
>>> National School District (http://nsd.us)
>>> San Diego County, California
>>> tel. (619) 336-7752
>>> FAX (619) 336-7551
>
>
>
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