I agree with Richard. This is clear in both AACR2 and the LCRI. I've
taken the reason to be that, whereas the "correct" form of a place name
can usually be determined from reference sources, the item in hand might
be the only source for a non-geographic name used as a qualifier, with
no quick way to determine how it is "commonly identified" for AACR2
purposes. It is therefore transcribed as found.
Regards
Richard
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From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
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Sent: 29 November 2006 13:47
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Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] NACO: conference locations
Dear all--
The situation as Carolyn describes below is how conference qualifiers
have _always_ been treated.
That is,
1) if the qualifier is a geographic, it needs to be used in the
cataloged entry form (with the usual change of parentheses dropped and
comma inserted: *Saint Louis (Mo.)* becomes *Saint Louis, Mo.* as a
conference qualifier even if the hypothetical work is in Spanish showing
the name as "la Ciudad de San Luis"), however
2) if the qualifier is a university, institute, etc. (that is,
something other than a geographic place name) then the qualifier is to
be transcribed as found on piece ... including in foreign language (as a
conference qualifier: *Washington University in St. Louis* when this
form is found on piece rather than the modification of the established
heading for the institution which would end up being: *Washington
University, Saint Louis, Mo. * If the entity isn't established, it does
not need to be).
Please be on notice that I am neither defending nor belittling this
apparent split approach. I'm merely clarifying. I think that this
situation falls into that category of things that ought to make a
cataloger's life easier ... but, then that might not be everyone's
opinion.
Thanks,
Richard
Carolyn Sturtevant wrote:
> Notes from a NACO trainer--but not necessarily the last word.
>
> The NACO Parameters with examples that we include in current NACO
> training documents are based in part on the second paragraph of the
> DCM Z1
> Introduction:
>
> "Generally, make a name authority record for any personal or corporate
> (including geographic) name heading that may be used as a main or
> added entry heading, whether it is actually first used as (or as part
> of) a main entry heading, a secondary entry (including a subject
> entry), or in certain cross references (e.g. hierarchy 4XX references,
5XX reference)."
>
> Wishing to explain the parenthetical "or as part of", we've included
> examples in the NACO Parameters that we teach on the first day of the
> week showing the need for authority records for elements in a
> hierarchy or for names used as qualifiers.
>
> Looking on our NACO page, the upper left "ABOUT NACO" is the link
> where the NACO Parameters are included. Unfortunately, we haven't
> noticed that this display could use updating to include the examples.
> We'll put that on the long list of PCC web enhancements.
>
> In my LCRI 24.7B Additions [to conferences] page, under Location, I
> have written a note in the margin as a result of consulting with CPSO
> and Coop colleagues in earlier years when I did more NACO training and
> review. Near the sentence beginning "When transcribing a local place,
> give its catalog-entry form (as modified...)", I have pencilled in
> "place as qualifier needs NAR." The intention has been that an
> institution name as addition may be transcribed as it appears, down to
> the diacritics, and need not have a NAR or match an existing NAR
> catalog form. Place names need the NAR.
>
> This is the perspective of someone who works the later shift. The
> early morning crowd may offer additional comments.
>
> Carolyn Sturtevant
> BIBCO Coordinator
> Library of Congress
> 202-707-4551
> 202-252-2082 fax
> [log in to unmask]
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pat Williams" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 4:22 PM
> Subject: Re: NACO: conference locations
>
>
>
>> As I recall, Chicago's NACO trainers and reviewers emphasized that
>> conference locations should conform to the form of the heading as
>> established in the authority file, whether it was a geographic
>> heading or
>>
> a
>
>> corporate body. If the location was not established already, we were
>> told to create an authority record for it. The only exceptions I can
>> recall
>>
> are
>
>> locations such as hotels, which did not have to be established
>> formally. We are still operating under these assumptions.
>>
>> Pat Williams
>> University of Chicago Library
>>
>>
>> At 12:34 PM 11/28/2006 -0800, you wrote:
>>
>>> I was trying to write up for local documentation here what the NACO
>>> requirements are for authority records related to the primary one
>>> you are contributing. I was surprised that I couldn't find a clear
>>> delineation of these in NACO policy documents, especially in the DCM
Z1 Introduction.
>>>
> Ana
>
>>> Cristan pointed me to the About NACO document
>>> (http://www.loc.gov/catdir/pcc/naco/nacopara.html). (It is bizarre
>>> to me that it's here; I definitely wouldn't have thought to look
>>> there.)
>>>
>>> One category that is not given in the list of 5 in that document is
>>> conference locations. Somewhere along the way, I got it into my head
>>> that we _were_ required to ensure that the location used in a
>>> conference heading qualifier was represented in the authority file.
>>> (I know that for "other" locations we use the language and form in
>>> the resource being cataloged, but still thought that the location
>>> had to have an authority
>>> record.) Do any of you remember that? Do any of you observe such a
>>> requirement now?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> _______________________________________
>>> Paul J. Weiss
>>> Catalog Librarian and NACO Coordinator Metadata Services Department
>>> UCSD Libraries
>>> 858-534-3537
>>> [log in to unmask]
>>> _______________________________________
>>>
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Richard C. Amelung
Professor of Legal Research
Associate Director
Saint Louis University Law Library
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