Hi Blake:

You might try some university school of music libraries. Some of them might well have kept
music-company release catalogs, or perhaps received a donation from a distributor or executive.
These will have the information you're seeking. Schwann, as has been pointed out, is also the likely
source.

I ask again, why is album release date particularly important? I would think session date/info is
enough.

-- Tom Fine

----- Original Message -----
From: "D. Blake Werts" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Fwd: [ARSCLIST] Dating LPs ?


> Thanks Don...
>
> Not that I'm defending the response that was provided, I did neglect to note
> in my original post that I am specifically speaking in terms of Classical
> and Operatic recordings. [And a couple of _years_ of doing "Google
> searches" hasn't provided links to public sites with the information that I
> seek.
>
> D. Blake Werts
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Don Tait" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 5:39 PM
> Subject: [ARSCLIST] Fwd: [ARSCLIST] Dating LPs ?
>
>
>> "Frankly," to use your word, I am equally aghast that you use the words
>> "laziness and stupidity" to characterize this request. It was clearly
> sincere. If
>> you had this information to impart, fine. Do so in the spirit of helping
> an
>> honest, genuine request for help and give collegial advice and assistance
> to
>> someone who might not have known about the sources you cite.
>>
>> Don Tait
>>
>
>
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> ----
>
>
>> Frankly,I am aghast at either the laziness,or stupidity of some
> people.There have been price guides out there for about thirty five
> years,and now with this here "series of tubes" thingy, the internets,and
> all,you just need to do a simple Google,and you usually find out fairly
> soon.Both Sides Now http://www.bsnpubs.com/discog.html is fairly accurate
> for the bigger labels,but not so hot for indies.There are numerous collector
> sites for budget classical of the 50s/early 60s,and for 50s/60s/70s
> rock,from all over the world,that have ridiculously complete discographical
> information,that I could never dream of putting together on my own.And there
> are new sites coming online all the time,like one I discovered recently for
> post-Shadows,pre-Beatles European/Asian guitar bands.Granted there are still
> some unknown private-issue Lps,mostly,classical,as well as stuff like "The
> Harlem Twisters"(Canadian),I have yet to find anything on,but there is very
> little of this.Sheesh
>>
>> Roger Kulp
>>
>> Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Hi Blake:
>>
>> I think the Schwann is as close as possible for what you're trying to do,
> unless you can acquire old
>> sales catalogs, which I think would indicate exact release dates. I think
> you'd have difficulty
>> finding those catalogs from back in ye dayes because there has been so
> much M&A activity in the
>> record-company business. I notice CD reissues concentrate on recording
> dates -- and sometimes rely
>> on less-than-reliable discography books. I'm not sure why the LP release
> date is important enough to
>> go through the exercise of gathering the info.
>>
>> -- Tom Fine
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "D. Blake Werts"
>> To:
>> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 2:37 PM
>> Subject: [ARSCLIST] Dating LPs ?
>>
>>
>> > The scenario: I've got a "few" Long Plays (LPs) and I would love to be
> able
>> > to ascertain an approximate "release date" for each as I am populating
> my
>> > collection database. The approximations do not need to be of high
>> > precision--a range of 3 to 4 months would suffice. Barring knowledge of
> the
>> > existence of an "Almost Complete 78 RPM Record Dating Guide" for LPs,
> I'm
>> > somewhat at a loss as to how I might be able to find such information.
> For
>> > example, I would like to be able to take the label and catalog number of
> an
>> > LP like a favorite of mine, (Mercury MS90488 Rodrigo: Concierto Andaluz,
>> > Concierto de Aranjuez - Romeros), and be presented with the information
> I
>> > seek.
>> >
>> > Question 1: does any such general resource exist (in print or
> electronic)?
>> > or currently being created?
>> >
>> > Question 2 [and probably the REAL question of this post]: would anyone
> else
>> > be interested in such a resource (other collectors, libraries,
> institutions,
>> > etc.)?
>> >
>> > I'm asking these questions because I am considering beginning such a
> project
>> > and would like to hear your thoughts. I know that there are lots of
> details
>> > to work through--first trying to see if there would be a need/use for
> such
>> > effort.
>> >
>> > Thanks Much for your Time,
>> > D. Blake Werts
>> >
>>
>>
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