The discs kept slipping out!
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From: "Steven Smolian" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Gassy inner sleeves
> At one time, the thicker plastic sleeves were made of recycled plastic
> bags which had been used to ship bananas, or so anecdote has it. They
> were somewhat impure as a result. This may account for some of the
> The other is that the migration issue- plastinc to plastic- was initiated
> and/or accelerated by storage conditions. Elevated temperatures and/or
> great pressure led to the sticky-sleeve syndrome.
> One partial solution was elbow grease and those orange-based cleaning
> compounds. Elwood McKee suggested this to me. They got the surface
> discoloration off but had trouble extracting the plastic from the grooves.
> More pads, etc, improved things further. There was a cost/time issue
> involved and I now use it only when the records are of consideable value.
> Unlike most such, graded visually, I play them. In part, the stylus works
> like a shovel and gets out (ot tells me I haven't gotten out) the rest of
> the stuff.
> The Japanese-type semi-opaque paper sleeves seem ok.
> Another problem is that some plastic sleeves were glued into the paper
> sleeves. Heat in storage- well, you know the rest.
> Steve Smolian
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> From: "Peter Hirsch" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 11:34 AM
> Subject: [ARSCLIST] Gassy inner sleeves
>> The recent thread on the risks plastic inner sleeves pose to LPs was
>> interesting but left a few unanswered questions in my mind.
>> What about those "audiophile" sleeves, like Nagaoka and others? I am not
>> chemist, but I am sure that some on this list might have more specific
>> information on what kind of polymer interacts harmfully with vinyl discs
>> what sort (if any) is inert.
>> Some have posted their choice of paper over plastic of any kind. Has this
>> tested out on any large scale (say, at an instititution with 10s of
>> of records or more) or is this just anectdotal, drawn from personal
>> experience? Either sort of information is of interest to me, but it would
>> useful to know what sort of basis was used for recommending one over the
>> other. If there has been any large scale trial, was there any conclusion
>> on the merits of acid-free sleeves or on the use of rice paper versus the
>> of the mill sort found in most commercially issued LPs?
>> Somewhat related, I am also wondering if using a static electricity
>> makes a significant effect on the longterm health of discs and whether
>> crucial time for de-stating is before shelving the record or when you are
>> about to play it. I guess one ought to do both just to play safe, but I
>> am not
>> savvy enough to know whether or not how long the disc sits on the shelf
>> in a
>> charged state makes a bit of difference.
>> My experience with long term storage of recorded media (I have been
>> around some elements of my collection since the mid-60s) confirms that
>> mileage is bound to vary from the scientifically derived benchmarks (for
>> example: all of my cassettes, even cheapo 30 year old ones, are still
>> just fine on my less than professional quality decks, though I know that
>> should not be so), but it would be good to know if there are any
>> benchmarks in
>> this area,
>> Just a few tech questions from a non-tech mind.
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Peter Hirsch
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