Hopefully they ran two machines and the B reels are still somewhere. Not to be counted on, however,
given track records of non-released material over the years.

-- Tom Fine

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Hodge" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] commerical reels history (was Boston Pops question) now a Kate Smith
question


> How about the unreleased cuts from Kate Smith's Carnegie Hall concert
> ca 1964 ? To this day I can hear the cuts made in the tape used
> to master the LP .
>
> I'd certainly like to hear what was left on the cutting room floor !
>
> BH
>
>
>
>>>> [log in to unmask] 4/9/2007 1:30 PM >>>
> On 09/04/07, Roger and Allison Kulp wrote:
>
>> See the article I linked to Re:The CSO.Are you sure the Munch
>> "Damnation",isn't one of those,that were released in stereo in the
>> late 70s/early 80s,like the Munch "Pastorale",or the Cantelli Franck
> ?
>>
> According to notes by John Pfeiffer in the booklet with the "Age of
> Living Stereo" sampler CD, part of the "Damnation" was spliced into a
> demo reel, which was later lost.
>
> A 5 minute excerpt is on that CD.
>
> Maybe that and other lost tapes will turn up some day.
>
>>
>> Roger
>>
>> Steve Abrams <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Not quite. The Munch
>> Damnation of Faust in February 1954 was recorded in stereo but only
>> issued in mono. Something happened to the stereo tapes. The Reiner
>> recordings of Heldenleben and Salome's dance were recorded on March
>> 6th. Zarathustra came two days later on the 8th. However - and you
>> should be able to shed some light on this - some stereo recordings
>> were made by Bert Whyte at the December 1952 sessions of the Chicago
>> Symphony recording Ma Vlast under Kubelik. 'Tabor' recorded on
>> December 6th has recently been issued on Music and Arts in a
> transfer
>> by Obert-Thorne. The very unpleasant overload distortion on the
>> Mercury Living Presence mono set, very evident on the CD issue, is
> not
>> evident in the stereo version.
>>
>> Steve Abrams
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Fine"
>> To:
>> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 12:10 PM Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST]
>> commerical reels history (was Boston Pops question)
>>
>>
>>> I'd be interested to know what's on them and who released them. I
> do
>>> not believe you'll find that they are in fact 2T stereo. They are
>>> likely half-track (2-sided) mono. If they are stereo, it would be
>>> very interesting to know who put them out as in 1952 only a few
>>> people were experimenting with 2-channel stereo recording of music.
>>> No major labels yet, although I believe RCA started making 2T
> masters
>>> in 1954 or even 1953 -- I think Zarathustra with Reiner was the
> first
>>> 2T session.
>>>
>>> -- Tom Fine
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jack Palmer"
>>> To:
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 12:29 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] commerical reels history (was Boston Pops
>>> question)
>>>
>>>
>>> I bought my first 2 track tapes for my reel recorder/player in
>>> the Base Exchange in Sidi-Slimane, Morocco in 1952. I still have a
>>> couple of them in fact. Jack
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tom Fine"
>>> To:
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 9:40 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] commerical reels history (was Boston Pops
>>> question)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ampex developed their own, was developed by Leon Wortman in NY and
>>> detailed in a 1951 Radio & TV News article. Wortman's line made
>>> full-track or half-track tapes. Commercial half-track tapes were
>>> available as early as 1951 or 1952, but there was only a very small
>>> consumer market for reel to reel machines at that point. > Because
>>> this was a new format sold at a premium price, a lot of QC
>>> attention was paid by the reputable companies in this era, so the
>>> net quality is very high. Akin to what happened when stereo LPs
>>> came along.
>>> .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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