I don't think it's appropriate to have this discussion in a public forum. I would call a personal
attack in a public forum sort of flame-ish, but I'm over it so no harm done. Please feel free to
discuss further off-list.
-- Tom Fine
----- Original Message -----
From: "Francesco Martinelli" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 5:08 AM
Subject: [ARSCLIST] Tom Fine and 78 rpm records
> Dear Tom
> you expressed several times already your dislike for 78 rpm records.
> Doing it again and again everytime the subject comes up, on a list dedicated
> to sound archiving, is tedious. I also find the expressions you are using
> are also rather insulting for people who are interested in 78 rpm records,
> sometimes dedicating their lifes to what is for you a "vastly inferior
> listening experience" or just plainly enjoy listening to them (quorum ego).
> We got your point, you dislike 78 rpm records, this will not stop others
> collecting, listening and enjoying them, no need to harp on it every other
> message. Other people will start listening all the crimes committed on
> magnetic tape, or describe the horrors of mp3, and we will get one of those
> format flame wars that just do not contribute anything useful to a list like
> Thank you for your consideration
> Francesco Martinelli
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Fine" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 12:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] King Oliver/Louis Armstrong Gennett recordings
> : Right, this one:
> : http://www.archeophone.com/product_info.php?products_id=85
> : I assume the real CD doesn't have the digi-swishies that these online
> excerpts have?
> : The instruments are quite a bit clearer than the LP I have but I guess the
> original media and
> : recording method is just so vastly inferior that a decent listening
> experience is not possible.
> : -- Tom Fine
> : ----- Original Message -----
> : From: "Sam Brylawski" <[log in to unmask]>
> : To: <[log in to unmask]>
> : Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 4:14 PM
> : Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] King Oliver/Louis Armstrong Gennett recordings
> : > As Dick Spottswood reminded us earlier this week, listen to Rob
> : > Bamberger's show, Hot Jazz Saturday Night at wamu.org. It's archived
> : > for three more days. His show this week is on the new Archeophone set,
> : > inc. interviews with its producer/engineers. They did a remarkable
> : > job, samples of which you'll hear.
> : > Sam
> : >
> : > On 6/1/07, Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> : >> Was anyone ever able to use digital tools and make those recordings
> : >> approaching decent sounding? All I have is the Book of the Month Club
> : >> reissue of the the Milestone LP produced by Orrin Keepnews and
> : >> for BOMC at Fantasy in 1974. The sound quality is so poor that I
> consider it
> : >> unlistenable. I understand the limitations of the original source
> : >> but wonder if any digi-magic was later invented that improved the
> : >> experience at all?
> : >>
> : >> The awful-sounding Gennett records were made in 1923. Just 2 years
> : >> Okeh made some decent-sounding Armstrong Hot Fives records in Chicago.
> : >> have those on a Columbia reissue LP "The Louis Armstrong Story Vol 1",
> : >> seem to have a very late (70s) pressing of this record, which the notes
> : >> indicate was issued at the dawn of the LP era, so back in the late 40's
> : >> Columbia engineers must have done disk-to-disk transfers, I would guess
> : >> Okeh metal parts.
> : >>
> : >> -- Tom Fine
> : >>
> : >