Probably using old stampers.Some of them did this.
Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Wing could have been mastered anywhere, including Mercury's own cutter room.
----- Original Message -----
From: "phillip holmes"
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 3:42 AM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] LP pressing question
>I know that Piros scribed "P13" and "P17". I think the P17 sound a
> little punchier to me. Were there any other common PXX combinations you
> can recall? Also, I was playing a Mercury Wing, one that didn't suck,
> and "MR" was in the deadwax. Who is "MR"?
> Tom Fine wrote:
>> I think all sorts of strange stuff took place with cutting guys in the
>> 60's, 70's and at th end of the LP era. Stan Ricker had some quite
>> original stuff in his Mobile Fidelity cuts of the 70's. In earlier
>> times, too much fanciful stuff was frowned on but every cutter had his
>> "maker's mark" that he would inscribe. At Fine Sound in the 50's, most
>> cuts would just have the catalog number stamped in the dead wax like
>> early Mercury MG series. Same for Verve, Kapp and Grand Award cut
>> there. This might have been a practice my father picked up at Reeves
>> in the late 40's or Majestic before that. When Fine Recording opened
>> up, George Piros was dealing with more lathes and more cutter heads
>> -- certain combinations preferred by certain producers -- so he
>> started a code of "PXX" with XX being a number representing a lathe
>> and cutter head. He would hand-scribe his mark plus the catalog number
>> and side a or b into the dead wax. John Johnson would scribe JJ. Once
>> dedicated mastering houses sprung up, you'd see a stamp imprint of,
>> for instance, "Mastered by MasterDisc". I'm not sure if guys at the
>> pressing plant would further scribe the dead wax to indicate a
>> replacement part or later replacement master. I would imagine a major
>> label's mastering department, like Columbia, would some pretty complex
>> codes to follow in the interest of uniformity.
>> Bob, how many cutters were there at Motown and what was your system?
>> -- Tom Fine
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Wylie"
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 6:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] LP pressing question
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