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Re: request for a new value for type attribute of namePart

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Thomas Place <[log in to unmask]>

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Metadata Object Description Schema List <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 22 Oct 2007 09:20:05 +0200

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I think that what I am talking about is not about rules or the same name
treated differently in different contexts. The case in hand is about
different names that look very similar.
The name Jan de Koning (1) is not the same as Jan De Koning (2).
(1) consists of three parts: given name = Jan, infix = de, family name Koning.
(2) consists of two parts: given name = Jan, family name = De Koning.
MODS has a facility to indicate the parts of a name, which is great.
However it is only possible to include given name and family name. My
request is to include infix as a proper name part.

Note that it is not the case that the person who is Jan De Koning (2) in
Belgium becomes Jan de Koning (1) in the Netherlands (or vice versa). Also
in the Netherlands Jan De Koning remains Jan De Koning and he has a
different name from Jan de Koning. The difference becomes apparent in
alphabetic lists that order on family name. Jan De Koning (2) comes under
the D as De Koning, Jan and Jan de Koning (1) under the K as Koning, Jan
de. I don't know the historical background of this subtle difference.

Thomas Place

On 20-10-2007 17:02, Karen Coyle wrote:
> This brings up something that does come up occasionally, which is that
> we made need a way to indicate which set of "rules" is being applied to
> a name. As you say,the same name can be treated differently in different
> contexts. So, although we have
>
> Smith, John
> Mao, Tse-tung
>
> if we were to display these in their "natural" (cultural?) order they
> would be
>
> John Smith
> Mao Tse-tung
>
> I don't know whether it makes sense to develop rules, or to include a
> display form, but something is needed if the names will be shared across
> contexts.
>
> kc
>
> Thomas Place wrote:
>> To: the MODS standard agency.
>>
>> There is a problem to represent Dutch personal names in MODS.
>> A Dutchman who is called Jan de Koning has as family name 'Koning' and
>> as given name 'Jan'. The infix 'de' is not part of the family name.
>> The possible values of the type attribute of namePart are limited to
>> an explicit enumeration of values in the schema. There is no value to
>> represent infixes like 'de', 'van' and 'van de'. Is it possible to add
>> 'infix' (or another string with the same semantics) to the enumeration
>> of values in the schema?
>>
>> Note that in Flanders the name would be Jan De Koning; 'Jan' is the
>> given name and 'De Koning' is the family name. So this is a problem
>> not of Dutch names, but of the names of the Dutch.
>>
>> We discovered this problem when writing guidelines for using MODS for
>> institutional repositories. Probably more questions and/or requests
>> will come out of this project (e.g., adding author identifiers is a
>> problem).
>>
>> Regards,
>> Thomas Place
>>
>

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Thomas W. Place ([log in to unmask])
Tilburg University, PO Box 90153, 5000 LE Tilburg, the Netherlands
phone: +31 13 466 2474; fax: +31 13 466 3370

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