We are planning to use the PREMIS as metadata and not use PREMIS as the
main metadata package, but we wanted to store all the events, including
the SIP submission event, as part of the PREMIS metadata event entity.

As part of the submission event we want to store the information about
the producer as recorded at the time of the event.

We would rather use standard structured information within the Event
entity or the agent entity to store that information. But, from what I
see, there is no good location within the PREMIS framework. We might
store it in a different metadata type and reference it from the PREMIS
event or agent entity.

Best Regards,

Yaniv Levi
Digital Products Manager

Tel: +972-2-6499270
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From: PREMIS Implementors Group Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
Karim Boughida
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 9:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [PIG] Event and agents

My interpretation is that you're treating PREMIS as the main metadata
package where in fact that's the job of METS and alike (eg DAITSS, APSR
models). Generally at the SIP level METS is the submission package.
PREMIS intervene at the AIP level.
Storing provenance info int the METS header is also not a good practice.
METS header (<metsHdr>) is about the METS document itself. Provenance
usually lives in the Descriptive Metadata (<dmdSec>) as self-contained
or referenced externally.

Karim Boughida
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>>> Yaniv Levi <[log in to unmask]> 2007-09-29 16:34 >>>
Thank you for the comments.

We were thinking of using the PREMIS event entity as our main provenance
metadata. In our view SIP submission is provenance information that
should be stored in PREMIS - this might push us to use the eventDetail
and not an external metadata.

Another option will be to store it in the METS header information as the
option is to use PREMIS with a METS wrapper, this is not storing the
information in the PREMIS but it is still self-contained - but then the
question is less relevant for this group although it correlates well
with the METS/PREMIS discussion.

Best Regards,

Yaniv Levi
Digital Products Manager

Tel: +972-2-6499270
Cell: +972-54-4999370
Email: [log in to unmask]


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From: PREMIS Implementors Group Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
Rebecca S. Guenther
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 8:36 PM
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Subject: Re: [PIG] Event and agents

I would use eventDetail if you want to record it within PREMIS.
eventDetail says it's not intended to be processed by machine and can be
used for any additional information about an event (I suppose you could
consider SIP submission an event). Better would probably be to store it
outside of PREMIS in something like an authority file/agent information
file.

Rebecca

On Wed, 26 Sep 2007, Yaniv Levi wrote:

> Is there a location in either the event entity or the agent entity to
> store the producer information as it was at the time of the SIP
> submission?
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> We are storing the current producer information by storing the
> producer's system id in the "agentIdentifier" tag, but we would like
to
> also store the historical information about the producer as producer
> information might change over time.
>
>
>
> One option might be to store it in the "eventDetail" tag, can you
think
> of another location or should it be managed outside of the PREMIS
> metadata.
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>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Yaniv
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