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Re: was LCC now webdewey

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"Hider, Philip" <[log in to unmask]>

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Yes, I've taught both with the printed volumes of DDC and LCC and with
their online equivalents, and prefer using the printed on the whole,
particularly for DDC; for ADDC using WebDewey is less of a problem (less
number building etc.) and ClassWeb is more practical than all the LCC
volumes if one wants to give a more holistic picture. I know what Keith
means about 'process time', but some of the ultra-slow Internet
connections my students have had to endure in the past has made the
paper technology seem lightning quick. 

The main advantages of the DDC printed volumes, for me, are the way in
which they more concretely demonstrate sythesis (adding numbers from
another volume, etc.) and their greater capacity, in some ways, to
provide an overview of a range of numbers (facing pages vs the screen,
page-turning vs scrolling, etc.).

On the other hand, my distance students have the choice of printed or
WebDewey, and a small study I did a couple of years back indicated that
the assignment results did not particularly correlate with medium. No
doubt to some extent responses to printed and online media vary from
student to student.

Humour (or humor) is in my experience an important component of a
successful cat & class course. My joke book looks set to expand greatly
with the advent of RDA.


Philip Hider, Ph.D., FCLIP
Senior Lecturer
School of Information Studies
Charles Sturt University
Australia


-----Original Message-----
From: Discussion List for issues related to cataloging & metadata
education & training [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Trickey, Keith
Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 7:09 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [eduCAT] was LCC now webdewey


Hello Chums 
Have watched this debate rage with considerable interest, having been in
the business of teaching and training cat and class in the UK for over
20 years.
 
The majority of the work I do with students is paper based - the reason
for this is simple - when you work paper you are constrained to work
slowly. When you work slowly you take your time going through processes.
When you take time going through processes it allows the mind to
reconfigure to those processes and the learning becomes more secure.
 
The change in academic 2006-07 to whole day modules (5 to 6hr teaching
blocks) has favoured this approach greatly and allowed for more secure
learning of the topic.
 
In terms of presentation - I take a very light hearted approach which
makes the classes entertaining for participants and helps the ideas and
practice to anchor in their thinking.
 
Cataloging may never be sexy, however it will always be vital in
information work.
 
Best wishes
 
Keith
 
Keith V. Trickey
Senior Lecturer
Liverpool Business School
Liverpool John Moores University

________________________________

From: Discussion List for issues related to cataloging & metadata
education & training on behalf of Jennifer Lang
Sent: Fri 11/30/2007 12:44 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [eduCAT] was LCC now webdewey



Another question for Dawn -

What would you suggest for teaching Dewey from the books in a totally
online environment? I would like to do this next semester; perhaps you
have some suggestions that will save me some of the time of re-creating
the wheel??

Thanks!!

Jennifer Lang
Electronic Resources Cataloger at
Princeton University Library and
Part-Time Lecturer

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