"Disinformation should not be confused with misinformation, which is
merely false information spread by mistake." I contend that according to
this definition my statement was clearly misinformation. I had no idea
that Lee Wiley recorded these "songbooks" in the 30's making it
impossible for this to be "disinformation" which is deliberate and
designed to mislead the opposition. I may love Ella to pieces but to
think I would engage in a "disinformation campaign" to besmirch Lee
Wiley stretches the boundaries of credulity.
Francesco Martinelli wrote:
> I know the meaning of the word, and I think it applies.
> You said that "she was really the first person to do the "songbook" of
> a particular composer or team". This is purposefully not true. Lee
> Wiley did, not one but I believe four times, in the Thirties. The idea
> was then reused by the Fitzgerald/Granz team. That you consider Wiley
> a second-rate singer or that the definitive version was made by
> Fitzgerald, is perfectly legitimate, as well as a contrary opinion,
> but they are opinions and do not change facts, or dates.
> I like when opposing facts are defined "purely technical" - a
> disinformational technique.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Levinson"
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> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 8:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Songbooks was Re: [ARSCLIST] Sinatra & Ella:
> The King and the Queen.
>> First of all Francesco it is not "disinformation"(look up the word).
>> Second, I personally do not think that 8 songs by a second rate
>> singer is the same as the exhaustive and definitive undertaking of
>> Ms. Fitzgerald. While on a purely technical level Lee Wiley may take
>> precedence, no one looks back on their career and says with
>> adulterated pride "Lee Wiley recorded my songs."
>> Francesco Martinelli wrote:
>>> Since this bit of disinformation gets said and repeated, I think it
>>> is appropriate to mention that in the thirties "Lee Wiley was the
>>> first jazz singer to record a full album (eight songs in the '78'
>>> days) dedicated to the music of one composer; her "songbooks"
>>> preceded Ella Fitzgerald's by more than 15 years." (Scott Yanow)
>>> Francesco Martinelli
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>>> I T A L Y
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Cox" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 2:03 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Sinatra & Ella: The King and the Queen.
>>>> On 07/07/08, Aaron Levinson wrote:
>>>>> That's so great to hear Bob. I'm not surprised of course just happy
>>>>> that she was acknowledged as such. I think it is important to note as
>>>>> well that she was really the first person to do the "songbook" of a
>>>>> particular composer or team.
>>>> We have Norman Granz to thank for that idea - and for a great many
>>>> other outstanding recordings.
>>>>> When you got the Ella treatment you knew
>>>>> that at least you're finest work was being immortalized by the zenith
>>>>> of popular singers. Of course, everyone knows her version of Tisket a
>>>>> Tasket which brought her into the spotlight and the duets with Pops
>>>>> which are a special delight all their own but if I may single out a
>>>>> performance that I believe is among the 5 or 10 greatest in the
>>>>> history of recorded sound I urge people to listen to her version of
>>>>> "Miss Otis Regrets". It is certainly not her most famous song but if
>>>>> you are not moved by this extraordinary bit of magic you are simply
>>>>> not alive.
>>>> Don Cox
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