Thanks for lots of information.
Actually, much of what you say makes sense for me too.
But I think the sound don't sound filtered; the sound if I use a KAB, sounds
more filtered I think.
BUT; yes; I can see that it was ment as a "stand alone unit" when it was
introduced, but can hardly think that well-known users like Robert Parker
used it that way when remastering his many LP-compilations from old jazz
I would really like to learn what other units it was used in connections
with, especially if there is any specific unit that could get rid of more of
that surface noise; since I think that's the main problem with the Packburn.
Simply; it isn't good enough to be the sole surface noise unit for playback
of old 78's.
If you know, please let me know also!!
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Emne: Re: [ARSCLIST] PACKBURN 323A
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> I never cared much for the PB noise reducer. As you state, it can pump.
I was friends with Dick Burns, and whenever he would demonstrate the
PackBurn he would glow over that active noise reducer. He LOVED the
sound it gave! I would usually ask him to let us hear the system
without that filter, and most everybody else just tip-toed around not
telling him that they also thought it sounded like crap. After all,
they knew that if they got a PackBurn they could keep it out of the
circuit. It might have been nice if there was some way to keep it from
being a part of the device because its absence might make it LESS
EXPENSIVE!!!! But don't worry about you not liking the filter. I think
that Dick Burns was the only one who ever liked it!!
> But B4 you get into broadband noise reduction, you might want to try
> a better pre-amp. Get one designed for vintage records. Playing them
> back RIAA falls quite short of what they can sound like.
You shouldn't be filtering or rolling off the highs before the PackBurn
anyway. It needs the full sharp bandwave to know what is impulse noise
and what is music.
> > MY main question is if the Packburn was used as a "stand alone"
unit or it
> > was also supplied with other noise reduction units in order to
> > more of the surface noise.
Back when it was introduced, there were no other noise reduction units
in existence! I thnk the Burwin and the two Owls came just after. So
it was originally intended to be a stand-alone with any necessary EQ
Mike Biel [log in to unmask]
> I like the models offered by KAB USA.
> joe salerno
> Jan Myren wrote:
>> About Packburn 323 Audio Noise Suppressor
>> My experience so far is that it works very well on clicks and pops
>> using the
>> switcher and the blanker. But the continous noise filter bugs me a bit,
>> since I think it doesn't reduce that much surface noise. I don't use the
>> variable adjust very often, since the so called "masked-noise" and the
>> pumping effect bring offer "strange noises" to the sound. Therefore I
>> use the FIXED adjust, and usually set it fixed at 9 o'clock posititon.
>> I have read that some re-issue engineers, like Robert Parker used the
>> Packburn 323A frequently when restoring old 78's for LP and CD-releases.
>> If so, what did they (or you) actually do and
>> what could eventually be a good supplement for that purpose?
>> I would really appreciate if any of you would please give me some
>> hints and
>> suggestions, since I think the Packburn will work very well if used the
>> right way!
>> Really hope to hear from you again!!
>> Best regards
>> Jan Myren¨