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Re: One Inch, two track master tapes- 15 or 30 IPS

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Don Chichester <[log in to unmask]>

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Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List <[log in to unmask]>

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Wed, 27 May 2009 08:37:46 -0400

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Was this the tape format Les Paul adapted for his multiple-track process 'way back when?
Don Chichester


-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Wed, 27 May 2009 6:02 am
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] One Inch, two track master tapes- 15 or 30 IPS


Hi Ken:?
?
The 1" 2-track format was not used much in this country back in ye dayes. It has been used sometimes in recent times. I doubt anyone would part with their master tape unless the tape ended up in their hands by ill means. A real-deal master tape is a copyrighted entity and fees must be paid to the musicians who performed and/or the record company that funded the sessions, at least by the old models. There are probably many "master tapes" floating around by groups who never made it and abandoned music and their tapes fell through the cracks and ended up on ebay. But I doubt any of them are 1" 2-track as this is a premium format used by premium-priced studios. There are exceptions to every rule, there may be some 1" 2-track "masters" made by the kids of extremely rich folks out there or "projects of the heart not the head" by aspiring musicians.?
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I think folks on this list who have actually been "in the vaults" will back me up -- almost all 2-track masters from the "golden age" of recording made in the US were 1/4". I don't recall seeing even 1/2" 2-track widely used until the late 1980's, and then it was premium priced so only recording projects with some budget were using it as the mastering format.?
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In this country, 1" came into use mainly for 8-track recording, and briefly for Scully's 12-track format (a forerunner of 2" 24-track). It found a resurgence as a 5.1 surround format (1" 6-track), but this ended up being a small niche and note that the sound-only 5.1 formats (SACD and DVD-audio) have been relegated to a niche, a shrinking one at that since audiophile attention seems focused on the "vinyl revival". I do know there were a few 1" 2-track decks sold in this country but I would bet the total number of professionally-produced 2-track master tapes is tiny. Not that many recording projects have _any_ budget these days, but those that do tend to be of the Protools/mastered in the DAW variety.?
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-- Tom Fine?
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Fritz" <[log in to unmask]>?
To: <[log in to unmask]>?
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 8:43 PM?
Subject: [ARSCLIST] One Inch, two track master tapes- 15 or 30 IPS?
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> Hi Listers,?
>?
> I'm probably one of the few on the list that is an " Audiophile." That translates to "Music > is fun and not a business." "Thank God" might be the next phrase but since my business supplies > tooling to those that manufacture solid surface and cast marble to the construction industry I > think we're both in the same boat. To the point!?
>?
> Analog tape is where the great recordings started and I'm keeping it going by filling my home > with around 20 or so analog RTR machines. I belong to an audio group in Richmond Va. and they > all marvel at the sound of tape. I just bought a one inch two track ATR and have nothing to play > on it. I feel like I just bought a tuxedo and only have a pair of brown shoes--- no place to go!?
>?
> If anyone out there has a one inch two track tape that would show off what my machine can do > and would CONSIDER sending it to me I'd appreciate it. The Genre isn't as important as the > musical content. If a lister has a safety copy of the Beatles, any recording, I can send an > armed carrier along with my first born for insurance-:), Any and all costs and insurance would > be covered, of course.?
>?
> any reply will be appreciated, Ken Fritz?
>?
> 

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