From: D P Ingram <[log in to unmask]>
> I raised this on 78-L without much luck (I guess the
> signal gets lost with all the noise there presently :)

Back on June 12/13 when you brought these up at the end of your response
to someone who answered your question about a Red Seal bulletin, the
traffic on the 78-L looks to have been 100% on-topic.

> Hopefully some colleague here could take a bit of time
> out to assist(or give some more detective clues)?

I can't help you on the European ones, but have a clue on these:

> VICTOR RECORDS Musical Masterpieces 78 pgs, USA. Form 1k4211

These are the album sets, right?  What would be the highest numbered
set?  And what prefixes are included.  AM was stopped as the war began. 
DM started around 1938.  

> VICTOR AND BLUEBIRD Popular Record Catalogue 95 pgs. Must be after 
> 1942 as has reference in advert to 1942 Victorla. Form 1k3778

I doubt it would be after 1942 because all production of civilian
electronics ceased around March or April 1942.  I would think it would
be around November/December 1941.  Victor annual catalogs usually came
out that time of the year, and in the U.S. the new model cars, etc. come
out in the fall of the previous year.  The 1942 Victrolas came out in
the fall of 1941.  Do you see any of the Remember Pearl Harbor type
songs?  I doubt it.  Any catalog after Jan 1942 would have some of them.

> VICTOR RED SEAL CATALOGUE. A Library of Famous Voices. Red binding 
> (what remains) 122pgs. Caruso is first artist profile on p3.

and was probably such in each of them until the mid-20s.  Was he still
alive in the description?  Are they all still single-sided?  

> Edison Records By Harry Lauder. Edison Records. form 

Are these for Amberol cylinders (1908-1912) or for Blue Amberol
cylinders (1912+)?  I don't have my books here so am not sure if he
recorded any 2-minute cylinders, but I know he did 4-minutes, and some
of them came out in both types.  

Hope these clues help.

Mike Biel  [log in to unmask]  



I am trying to get as close a year as possible for the purposes of 
cataloguing (rather than just list as "undated". It is frustrating and 
I've tried not to guess (myself, that is) as I know some places use 
inconsistent numbering. A couple of labels have been helpful as they 
used a logical form, i.e 192201-01 which matches up well.

After cataloguing 39 archive boxes of catalogues I also have the 
following "date orphans" if someone could hazard a guess to the 
publishing year?

BBC RECORDS CATALOGUE, Orange cover, 8 pg gatefold. Must be after 1971 
(?) as has a decimal price convertor. First record in list is REA 1M 
"Our present knowledge of the universe, a lecture .. Lovell" 43/9 
(price)

DECCA POLYPHON (Norwegian) 6 pg gatefold with picture of Charles Munch.

DECCA POLYPHON (Norwegian) 6 pg gatefold with picture of seven artists 
(?unreadable old text TONEKUNST)

DECCA POLYPHON (Norwegian) 6 pg gatefold with picture of Wandy Tworek.

DECCA RECORDS (?USA) Fill Your Home With Music on Christmas Day (8 pg, 
printed in Canada)

HMV "The Archive Series" 6 pg letter size (probably British or 
Canadaian as it has shillings) h6087/951 Could this be 1951?

HMV UNUSUAL RECORDS, 16 pgs h5667/451 knp

HMV SPECIAL LIST, RECORDS OF GREAT MUSIC INTEREST NOT INCLUDED IN THE 
GENERAL RECORD CATALOGUE AND AVAILABLE TO SPECIAL ORDER ONLY" 20pg 
h3405/948 Could this be 1948?

PHILIPS GROUP, Music cassettes, 14 pp gatefold, no country or price 
information 60s style girl on cover, Issued by Philips England though.

TELEFUNKEN RECORDS, "TELEFUNKEN RECORDS IN AMERICA" 6 pg gatefold 
leaflet, price of records A & B 10" one dollar first record in list 
SK1317/8 Concerto in A Minor for four pianos and orchestra. 
Handwritten text /could/ indicate 1933 but somewhat unclear. Written 
in English.


Any help kindly accepted :)
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