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Re: Eric Von Schmidt LP's

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Steve Abrams <[log in to unmask]>

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Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List <[log in to unmask]>

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Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:35:49 +0100

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The first record was on Folkways with Rolf  Cahn and dates from 1961.  The 
one to have is the record with Dick Farina (also Ethan Singer and "Blind Boy 
Grunt" AKA unowho) recorded at Dobell's Record Shop in London in January 
1963.  Available on CD from Solano Records with outtakes and a couple of new 
songs.  Also available as MP3 from Amazon.  They have some copies for sale 
from Associates but it is unclear whether these are LPs or CDs. The last 
record is Baby Let Me Lay It On You. (Gazell, 1995) I've known Joe Boyd 
since 1965.  He isn't always spot on with facts.

SA

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Aaron Levinson" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Eric Von Schmidt LP's


> Does anyone out there in the ARSC universe have doubles of Eric Von 
> Schmidt vinyl that they would be willing to part with? I'm looking for his 
> first on Prestige from 1963, The one he did with Dick Farina with the goat 
> on the cover and finally the one on Philo called Cruel Family. Any help 
> would greatly appreciated. My good pal Joe Boyd has urged me to track them 
> down...
>
> AA
>
>
> Michael Biel wrote:
>> From: Roger Kulp <[log in to unmask]>
>>
>>
>>> I also seem to recall seeing something about Glenn Miller recording 
>>> music to movie film
>>>
>>
>> Miller recorded on optical film for his two movies, not magnetic film
>> which is what all the other recordings being discussed were recorded on.
>>  There's quite a difference.
>>
>>
>>> and everybody being so impressed with the sound.
>>
>> This comes from the liner notes of the LP issues of these soundtracks on
>> the 20th Century Fox label.  Unfortunately, these LPs have some of the
>> worst sound even inflicted on the public.  But the same recordings, some
>> of them in a longer form than were on the Fox albums, had been issued
>> earlier on RCA Victor LPs and were FANTASTIC!  The original 10-inch
>> Victors are still the best form of the recordings.  In the early years
>> of the CD, Mercury decided to do their own issue and got a friend of
>> mine, John McDonough, to write the notes.  He was told that they were
>> going back to the original masters and he wrote in the notes that
>> finally we could toss away those old 10-inch Victors.  But they lied to
>> him -- they used the tapes that had been used for the crappy 20th
>> Century Fox LPs.  He said that the John Payne solo in "I Know Why" would
>> be included -- it wasn't.  He said the long version of Chatanooga Choo
>> Choo would be included -- it wasn't.  He said the sound would be as good
>> or better than the Victors -- it wasn't.   He -- and all the purchasers,
>> including me -- were given the royal shaft.  I'm glad I still have my
>> original 10-inch Victors.
>> But the original optical films were and are great, and they have even
>> found some of the original "angles" , which are the separate mic tracks
>> used for close-ups, which can yield stereo.  So much of the music in the
>> two films is now in stereo on the LaserDiscs and DVDs.
>> But I should also mention that many of the recordings of the Miller Army
>> Air Corp Band are even better than the film recordings.  Those 1943 and
>> 44 recordings are better than the recordings of the civilian band made
>> before 1942.
>>
>> Mike Biel  [log in to unmask]
>>
>> 

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