Back in the fifties, one could order pressings of records from the
acoustic era from HMV in London. I can't remember how many one had to
order or the price, it being a friend who did the actual ordering.
The odd thing was they had to be ordered by matrix number, not title
and it didn't seem to be possible to get any matrix information from
them. Several unpublished records by major singers were discovered by
ordering numbers that were between published records. They were all,
except for one Patti, printed from masters. The Patti was a dub. This
was pointed out to me at Yale where they had an early test pressing
of the unpublished Patti that was original. Thankfully, one of her
best records, it was a very good dub.
Malcolm Smith.
On Aug 18, 2009, at 2:08 PM, Roger Kulp wrote:
> You do know,or the most part, the further back you go into the 78
> era,the chances of anything like stampers or metal parts actually
> existing are slim and none.I was discussing this recently in the
> context of acoustic era classical records.Things like the early
> Columbia acoustic recordings of Thomas Beecham and Felix
> Weingartner made prior to WWI.A lot of the acoustic classical stuff
> was melted down when electrical recordings were made.And much of
> the rest was melted down during the war effort.So be it "In My
> Tippy Canoe" by The Hackle-Berg,or the Paramount blues 78 of your
> choice,the only way it still exists is in our half-vast shellac
> collections,but tell that to the copyright nazis.
>
> Roger
>
>
>
>
> --- On Mon, 8/17/09, Steven C. Barr <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> From: Steven C. Barr <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] EMI in deep trouble
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 9:48 PM
>
> I don't recaqll off-hand...did the UK increase their copyright term
> for
> sound recordings just recently? If they did, then virtually ALL of
> their
> "metal part" holdings have, at least in theory, SOME value...since
> that
> makes EMI the only legal "reissuer"thereof...?!
>
> Of course, 99.99% of present-day record-company administrators
> know SFA about older material (actually, for that matter, newer
> material as well...?!). They are probably waiting impatiently to
> discover
> the "next Beatles," "next Elvis" or even possibly "the next Glenn
> Miller"...?!
> What they want are multi-platinum stars whose records "sell
> themselves"
> to their near-intoxicated-with-desire "fan base!" They CANNOT realize
> that "them days are gone forever"...and, as well, have NO idea how to
> sell the huge body of recorded music they DO own!!
>
> The (half?!) vast majority of these hapless souls probably live in the
> illusion that "music" wasinvented in: (1) c.1963, by the Beatles and
> the Rolling Stones; (2) 1955, by Elvis Presley and the other "rock'n
> roll" artists...or just MAYBE c.1939 when Glenn Miller started
> his band...?! These companies have, as well, "classical music"
> departments; however, again, the heads of those operations are
> totally clueless as to (1) what the company holds in extant
> recordings...
> or (2) how to market any reissues of worthwhile previous holdings...?!
>
> FEH!!!
>
> Steven C. Barr
>
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