Ref. the final paragraph: You're wondering and *I'm* hoping! And hoping
.... and hoping ...and hoping. But not waiting.
Tom Fine wrote:
> If someone takes this on, I am offering my help, too. I do have some
> details that were not available when Michel did his original book, on
> both pop and classical sessions. I am happy to help in exchange for a
> copy of the completed database.
> One problem Michel had was that many old session tapes were copied or
> re-boxed and a "Mercury Sound Studios" label attached. But, "Mercury
> Sound Studios," at least as originally constituted on 5th Avenue in
> NYC, was not a music-recording studio. It was, rather, an editing and
> promotion-production facility, and I think but do not know that disk
> mastering was added at some point in the 60's. Later on, in the late
> 60's, Mercury did operate recording studios, both on 57th Street in
> Manhattan and also in San Francisco. There was definitely in-house
> disk-mastering in NYC at that time, too, under the direction of John
> The problem with all these "Mercury Sound Studios" labels on tape
> boxes is that many jazz and pop sessions were incorrectly sited at
> that facility, rather than the proper recording studios. In some
> cases, the proper studio information is in the original LP liner
> notes, but apparently these were not in the files anymore.
> Anyone wishing to update Michel's original work will need to track
> down and fix all those "Mercury Sound Studios" references until the
> late 60's, when Mercury actually did operate recording studios where
> music records were made.
> There are other cases where "location unknown" can be resolved by
> photos on the original album covers. It's a case by case thing, but
> certain studios had distinctive things that the trained eye can find.
> With the 50's and 60's jazz stuff, some of this was clarified during
> CD reissues.
> None of this is a knock on Michel or any other discographer. These
> complete discographies are monumental undertakings and my experience
> is that record-keeping at most or all record companies is not what
> you'd call archival ISO certified quality!
> One more thing. I would say the ONLY logical format for ANY
> discography these days is a database, and hopefully a standard format
> that can be easily searched, printed and distributed. So then you get
> into what's a viable business model, and in that is the rub. I'm
> wondering if discography should go in the class of basic medical
> research or public artwork, that it's supported by grants and/or
> public arts/culture funding.
> -- Tom Fine
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michel RUPPLI"
> <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 1:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Mercury 25073 source/date/performer?
> I do not think that Greenwood has anymore interest in publishing
> discographies, nor is interested in producing CD-ROMs. The idea of
> transferring that Mercury work to CD-ROM is a good one,of course ,as
> it seems the way to go nowadays. As for myself, I have stockpiled
> large amounts of details on many Mercury artists, which outdate the
> printed work, and a new publication,in my opinion, should be an
> updated version. That requires a great amount of work, which I am
> unable to do at this time: I am involved in other projects, like a
> forthcoming version of Atlantic (updated) on CD-ROM, in the vein of
> what I made on Capitol,ABC and Blue Note labels in the past years.
> If some dedicated person appears be ready to go with updating
> Mercury, that would be a true challenge, and I would assist him (her)
> with my files.
> Anyone interested??
> Le 8 oct. 09 à 18:06, Thomas Stern a écrit :
>> Hello Michel,
>> Our messages crossed - Thanks for this information!
>> I wonder if anyone at Greenwood is thinking about making the
>> series available
>> on CD-ROM? I, like many older collectors no longer can afford the
>> price of
>> the print editions
>> of discographies. The production costs for ROM are significantly
>> lower, and
>> would make the work
>> available, if the cost savings are passed on. If search
>> capabilities are
>> included, the ROM
>> format is significantly better for searching.
>> Of course, I'd like to see a freely available online national
>> with everything,
>> but until that happens it is nice to see resources like 78discography
>> Best wishes, Thomas.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Michel RUPPLI
>> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 11:24 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Mercury 25073 source/date/performer?
>> Yes,MG25073 wa a reissue of songs previously issued on 78 rpm in a 3
>> record set.
>> Here are details I mentioned in my Mercury Discoraphy (Grenwood Press,
>> NEW SONGS OF PALESTINE (SONGS OF ISRAEL):
>> We have the strength/ Merc.1068(alb.A-35)
>> Israel's heroes - -
>> Song of the signal man - -
>> Song of faith Merc.1069 -
>> Song of the Jewish partisans - -
>> Song of the Emek Merc.1070 -
>> This way - -
>> All titles also issued on Merc.MG25073.
>> Michel Ruppli
>> Le 8 oct. 09 à 16:29, Thomas Stern a écrit :
>>> Anyone know if the LP listed below
>>> originated from a 78rpm album?
>>> Who are the performers?
>>> Best wishes, Thomas.
>>> Mercury MG 25073 10"-LP
>>> Songs of Israel
>>> A1. We Have the Strength-Israel's Heroes
>>> A2. Song of the Signal Man
>>> A3. Song of Faith
>>> B1. Song of the Jewish Partisans
>>> B2. Song of the Emek
>>> B3. This Way