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Re: current 78 was Still more LP jukebox trivia

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Dan Nelson <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:59:45 -0700

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I just saw a 10"78rpm  from a retro folk group out of Oregon.
It was pressed on vinyl but  LP groove to get the length of the tune on the disc.
They wanted to be totally  retro i guess  and sent these out to djs and radio stations.... dont they know  radio stations dont have turntables any more  much less a 78 one.
dnw  

--- On Mon, 10/5/09, Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> From: Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Still more LP jukebox trivia
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Monday, October 5, 2009, 1:32 PM
> This is not true. 78RPM kiddie
> records were made well into the 60's. I had a bunch of them
> when I was a kid, all pressed on vinyl. Kiddie phonos of
> both my youth (circa late 60's and early 70's) and my
> younger brother's youth (circa 1970's) still had 78RPM
> speed. I think by the late 70's, that was no more. They were
> still cutting 78RPM wide-groove kiddie records at Fine
> Recording at least into the early 60's, probably later than
> that. A guy named Steve Robb used to do this on a Presto
> lathe. He also cut zillions of mono 45's for radio play.
> 
> As far as adult music 78's, I would agree late 50's would
> be their end. I have a bunch from the early 50's, and at
> least Mercury, Norgran/Verve and Columbia were pressing on
> vinyl for radio-play copies. Some of the vinyl 78's sound
> _way_ better than your average 45 single.
> 
> -- Tom Fine
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Kulp" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 1:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Still more LP jukebox trivia
> 
> 
> I saw somewhere that most US labels stopped pressing 78s in
> August (?) of 1958.I have four US pressed 78s from
> 1960.These are all R&B hits on Ace,Gone,and Atlantic.I
> read somewhere else,Goldmine perhaps,that some independent
> labels were still pressing 78s for jukebox operators too
> stubborn to switch to them newfangled 45s.That they were
> doing this into 1961,and only pressed up a few dozen of
> these titles on 78.
> 
> Roger
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Mon, 10/5/09, Lou Houck <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> 
> From: Lou Houck <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Still more LP jukebox trivia
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Monday, October 5, 2009, 8:40 AM
> 
> Just can't stop talking about those juke boxes!
> When singles were released in both 78 and 45 rpm,
> Wurlitzer jukes selected a record by a mechanism
> that swung a record tray out over the turntable,
> which rose up on a long shaft, through the tray
> and took the record up to the tone arm in the
> upper regions of the cabinet. This mech was
> even more convoluted than that last sentence!
> There were 10" adaptor discs that had a 7"
> cut out to hold records for machines configured
> for 45 rpm play. What a joy to watch, but hell
> to keep aligned. I've got one out in the barn,
> and am keen to restore it!
> 
> Lou Houck
> Rollin' Recording
> Boerne, TX
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: Morton Jr, David L
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 4:27 PM
> Subject: [ARSCLIST] Still more LP jukebox trivia
> 
> 
> Wurlitzer (and others?) in the 60s (don't know the exact
> year range )
> also offered jukeboxes that played both regular 45s and
> 7-inch, 33 1/3
> "small hole" discs that they advertised on the machine
> itself as "LP."
> The speed selection occurs as the record is loaded onto the
> platter. The
> mechanism that locks it into position in the center of the
> platter also
> detects the size of the hole, and when it senses (senses is
> probably not
> the right word; it implies more sophistication than this
> mechanism
> really has) the small hole it shifts to a second drive
> pulley/belt.
> 
> 
> 
> Dave Morton
> 
> Atlanta
> 
> 
> 
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