OOPS -- I meant my double-negative to say:
None of this is meant to say that 5" optical discs AREN'T headed toward the scrapyard of history,
but I don't think it will be a sudden abandonment of the technology.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Fine" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:52 AM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Sound Forge issues
> Backing up Jim's points -- CD's still far outsell legitimate downloads as far as numbers and
> definitely as far as dollars. They're losing ground at a rapid pace, but they are still the
> mainstream release medium. Again, not for much longer according to just about every projection
> I've seen, but definitely so for now. With the huge installed base of CD and DVD media, I can see
> enough demand for players/optical drives being made for years, maybe a decade plus.
> Also, every institutional/archival client I've had wants gold CDR backups of everything, so there
> will be a huge installed base in the archival world for a long time to come.
> None of this is meant to say that 5" optical discs are headed toward the scrapyard of history, but
> I don't think it will be a sudden abandonment of the technology.
> -- Tom Fine
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Lindner" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Sound Forge issues
> Factually -
> Moore's law has nothing to do with storage - it has to do with the density of transistors on an
> integrated circuit approximately doubling every 12 months.
> The main reason that CRT's were taken out of production initially was due to the RoHS (Restriction
> of Hazardous Substances) directive in manufacturing in Europe effectively banning 6 hazardous
> substances used in electronics equipment manufacturing (there is lots of lead in CRT glass). The
> factories for CRT manufacture had been set up quite some time ago world wide and maintaining them
> would have been far more profitable then retooling for LCD and Plasma production. Almost all the
> manufacturers in that business wrote off huge amounts of money due to the switch over. It would
> have made far more sense financially to continue using factories that had already been built and
> depreciated to continue to produce product that was extremely profitable due to decades of
> perfecting the manufacturing process and reducing the cost of manufacture. That simply was not an
> option. While one could certainly suggest that the switch over to LCD/Plasma would have caused the
> change anyway, the timetable was definitely not up to the manufacturers of CRT's - indeed most of
> them are still loosing money in the flat screen business and many have exited the manufacture of
> them or now simply have product badged for them or do some rudimentary assembly of units. The
> manufacture of the LCD panels themselves has moved for the most part to different players in the
> industry who may not have even been large players in CRT manufacturing. The move to LCD was a
> major financial stumble for several of the companies who formerly were in the CRT business.
> I have read no press releases or news articles stating that optical media players are about to go
> out of production. There certainly are the usual evolutions of models and capacities and media
> types, but out of production is not something that has actually happened or seems to be on the
> near horizon. Remember that optical media players have several markets that make production
> numbers very substantially larger then audio home entertainment applications alone. Video Game and
> Computer marketplaces are still very big users of these products and likely will continue to be
> for some time. Again, manufacturing economies of scale allow units to be cheaper so that they may
> be included into a variety of systems reducing item cost and increasing profit for the
> manufacturer who has made the rather large capital investment required to produce these devices in
> the first place. It is makes far more financial sense for manufacturers to continue existing
> manufacturing lines then to retool or discontinue them.
> Jim Lindner
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> On Nov 19, 2009, at 9:34 AM, Bob Olhsson wrote:
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From Tom Fine:
>>> PS -- I'm a big advocate of standardizing on 88.2/24 as the archival
>>> transfer format due to the very
>>> simple computer math of down-sampling the long-established and heavily
>>> entrenched CD standard for
>>> playback and general-use copies...
>> Because of solid state storage being completely subject to Moore's law, the optical media player
>> is about to go out of production for exactly the same reason the CRT television set has. It will
>> simply make no financial sense for anybody to maintain the assembly lines.
>> That'll be the end of 44.1 as any kind of a standard.
>> Bob Olhsson Audio Mastery, Nashville TN
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