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Subject:

tube mixing console project for sale

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Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 21 Dec 2009 09:10:04 -0500

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Sorry in advance for the cross-postings. Please feel free to pass on to anyone you know who might be 
interested but isn't on this list.

Back a few years ago, I bought the pieces to build a Gates-based tube mixing console similar to what
was in my father's recording studio 1958-1968. I restored two power supply/monitor amp units and
restored several mic preamp modules, the other modules tested out just fine.

The base for this project is a Gates TV-10. The board is in pretty good cosmetic shape, it needs a
new escutchen plate in the center because there was a badly-constructed source-switching pushbutton
array put there by the college station that last used it. The TV-10 is a true 2-channel board, but
the key switches can be wired for a center buss instead of an "off" loading resistor (ie they are
3-way switches with all the right terminals in place). I was planning on rewiring it so it worked
like Altec's stereo board of the same era, with a 3-channel output or two-channel created by
transformer-splitting and transformer-combining the center into the two sides (the same way, by the
way that the 3-2 mixdown board used to master all the Mercury Living Presence stereo LPs and CDs
work). The left side (5 input channels) needs to be rewired but the right side buss wiring is
intact. I have extensive documentation.

Also included is a Gates STudioette mono mixer and many extra modules and parts taken from a
stripped out Studioette, stripped out power supplies and several extra mic preamp modules. Also
included are enough UTC A-series matching transformers to have line inputs to all faders (I was
planning on doing this via a patchbay). Missing are line amps that would follow the buss-booster
modules. Gates line amps were a terrible design, so I'd recommend you use something like a Langevin
or Altec module or I was planning on using a John Hardy discrete op-amp block (the mic preamps and
buss boosters will be plenty of "tube sound" so a modern neutral-sounding line amp would be
beneficial, in my opinion).

The 10W monitor amps built onto the power supplies include UTC ultralinear output transformers. Also
included is a separate standalone monitor amp, complete but un-restored, in case you wanted to go
with full 3-channel monitoring.

Bottom line for me is, I'll never have time to finish this, and the project outlived the old-timer
who was helping me get it done. So now I'll sell the pile for about what I have in it, $1200. If you
cut it all apart and sold it in pieces on eBay, you'll make money. I don't have the heart to gut out
these things I've restored. If you want a tube console in your life, I doubt you'll find a complete
rig at a lower price. Please know up-front that you'll need to have restoration skills or have a
good buddy with those skills. I should add that nothing is filthy like it got dragged out of a barn.
Most parts have been cleaned off and the console itself was never ill-stored.

Please ping off-list if interested. I would suggest this is a pickup-only pile, it's located in
Brewster, NY. All told, enough stuff here to fill a medium-sized SUV or a spacious car.

-- Tom Fine

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