Used to? I still have some in my theatre pending replacement by
something better, which won't happen until after I do a deep
decluttering of the collection.
I didn't have such in my dorm room, insufficient space...
Michael Biel wrote:
> OK, show of hands. How many of you used boards and cinderblocks or
> bricks to build your college dorm bookshelves?
> Mike (wishing the steel shelving he used to use was still available)
> Biel [log in to unmask]
> George Brock-Nannestad wrote:
>> From: Patent Tactics, George Brock-Nannestad
>> Brandon Burke asked:
>>> Anyone else think it's ironic (sad even?) that a thread originally about
>>> preservation and long-term housing solutions has turned into a
>>> discussion of milk crate technologies..
>> ----- I for one don't. Because the query was about an instant problem,
>> not about preservation and long-term housing at all. People reacted on
>> their gut feeling and saw "long term", so their posts were just as
>> misguided. And reacting by going into fibre-glass reinforced milk
>> crates is just as relevant.
>> I think that we may have information overload, but from free
>> association something good may still come. People used plywood in the
>> old days (see the original post), and the fortuitous fact that certain
>> milk crates are actually also very good for housing records with stiff
>> covers shows that when there was a demand outside the archiving world,
>> elements useful in archiving became much cheaper. However, only one
>> ARSCLIST poster really made good use of them. And this is the eternal
>> problem of archiving: we have to rely on technology originally
>> developed for other purposes, because there is so little prestige in
>> archiving that there is no funding for buying tailor-made solutions.
>> On another list a reference to a most relevant document has been
>> posted, and I recommend it heartily, although I have not finished
>> reading it. It is available at:
>> and it is called "Sustainable Economics for a Digital Planet". It is
>> very sobering reading. Fortunately, in other places there are still
>> those who work on an easily accessible and durable
>> (non-migration-requiring) medium. It is my personal view that that is
>> the only long-term viable solution.
>> Kind regards,
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven C. Barr"
>>> <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Monday,
>>> March 15, 2010 8:14:28 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re:
>>> [ARSCLIST] 16" transcription disc housing & moving audio
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Biel" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Thornton Hagert wrote:
>>>>> Oh, for the Good-Old-Days when milk-crates were milk-crates !
>>>> Not really. They were made of wire then and totally unsuitable for
>>>> anything but glass quart bottles. .
>>> I actually have one of those "wire" milk boxes out in my garage! As
>>> you note, it isn't good for 78's. The "golden age" of milk boxes was
>>> in the mid-seventies, at least in the Toronto area...Sealtest used
>>> what look to be fiberglas boxes, which are VERY durable...they were
>>> red in colour. There was a "second issue" of the newer smaller
>>> boxes...these are very hard to find, and are green in colour...!
>>> However, I was given about 300 or so of the red ones, by a
>>> variety-store owner...he had been "caught" with them when the size
>>> was changed, and as a result the dairy no longer wanted them (nor
>>> would they pay his deposit on them...!).
>>> Steven C. Barr
>>> Brandon Burke Archivist for Recorded Sound Collections Hoover
>>> Institution Archives Stanford University Stanford, CA 94305-6010 vox:
>>> 650.724.9711 fax: 650.725.3445 email: [log in to unmask]