Fair enough - ever seen the clip of VERA (the BBC's VT machine)? That's 
pretty kinky, too!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Shai Drori" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] What do you think I should do?


> Sorry for not making myself clearer. I was referring to the quad vtr 
> (actually the mark one had 3 heads in arcuate configuration and AM). There 
> was something that looked like a picture but not to any standard. It did 
> show the possibility.
> Shai
>
> On 3/14/2010 10:34 AM, Ted Kendall wrote:
>> Poor analogy. I have heard a straight dub of the first time the Ampex was 
>> used in anger, namely the opening show of Bing Crosby's 1947 season. 
>> Nothing appalling there, I can tell you - technically, at least...
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shai Drori" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 6:22 AM
>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] What do you think I should do?
>>
>>
>>> I have already heard a sound file generated by image processing. Don't 
>>> remember where it was, but I think it was someone here in Israel. 
>>> Sounded horrible but it proved the possibility. Kind of like the Mark 1 
>>> from ampex.
>>>
>>> On 3/14/2010 7:53 AM, Michael Biel wrote:
>>>> Alex Hartov wrote:
>>>>> Shari
>>>>>
>>>>> Make high resolution images of all the pieces.  Use light at ~45degree 
>>>>> incidence from two side ( two separate pictures).  I am sure it will 
>>>>> be possible to revive the music from that.
>>>>>
>>>>>   PS
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want I'll make it a project to recover the sound from the 
>>>>> pictures.  I teach a class in image processing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alex Hartov
>>>>
>>>> I hope it works.  I must make a comment here because I have been 
>>>> preaching about the possibility of playing phoyographs of records for 
>>>> 40 years.  I realized around 1970 as I took photos of journal pages and 
>>>> paper files to use as microfilm as a replacement for notetaking while 
>>>> researching for my PhD. dissertation that it was great that I could 
>>>> capture the page in an instant and read it later but when I took 
>>>> pictures of records I could only read the label info, not hear it.  No 
>>>> instant capturing of the sound.  Dubs had to be real-time.  But I was 
>>>> sure that if the pictures could be taken so that the record was evenly 
>>>> lit -- like using a ring light around the lens -- and not have wedges 
>>>> of light, the sound could probably *someday* be played.
>>>>
>>>> When the design for the photographic system for the Rigler Deutsch 
>>>> Record Index was being developed I pleaded with them to light the discs 
>>>> evenly. But their ONLY concern was legibility of the label and the 
>>>> matrix number markings.  But there are now unplayable photographs of 
>>>> 700,000 78s in the RDRI films.  (For those who do not know, the records 
>>>> were photographed and the data entered into the computer from the 
>>>> films.  Instead of the records being moved to the computer in those 
>>>> days of the mainframe, the special camera came to the archuve.)
>>>> Mike Biel  [log in to unmask]
>>>
>>
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