Used to? I still have some in my theatre pending replacement by 
something better, which won't happen until after I do a deep 
decluttering of the collection.

I didn't have such in my dorm room, insufficient space...

joe salerno


Michael Biel wrote:
> OK, show of hands.  How many of you used boards and cinderblocks or 
> bricks to build your college dorm bookshelves?
> 
> Mike (wishing the steel shelving he used to use was still available) 
> Biel  [log in to unmask]
> 
> 
> George Brock-Nannestad wrote:
>> From: Patent Tactics, George Brock-Nannestad
>>
>> Brandon Burke asked:
>>
>>  
>>> Anyone else think it's ironic (sad even?) that a thread originally about
>>> preservation and long-term housing solutions has turned into a 
>>> discussion of milk crate technologies..
>>>     
>>
>> ----- I for one don't. Because the query was about an instant problem, 
>> not about preservation and long-term housing at all. People reacted on 
>> their gut feeling and saw "long term", so their posts were just as 
>> misguided. And reacting by going into fibre-glass reinforced milk 
>> crates is just as relevant.
>> I think that we may have information overload, but from free 
>> association something good may still come. People used plywood in the 
>> old days (see the original post), and the fortuitous fact that certain 
>> milk crates are actually also very good for housing records with stiff 
>> covers shows that when there was a demand outside the archiving world, 
>> elements useful in archiving became much cheaper. However, only one 
>> ARSCLIST poster really made good use of them. And this is the eternal 
>> problem of archiving: we have to rely on technology originally 
>> developed for other purposes, because there is so little prestige in 
>> archiving that there is no funding for buying tailor-made solutions.
>>
>> On another list a reference to a most relevant document has been 
>> posted, and I recommend it heartily, although I have not finished 
>> reading it. It is available at:
>>
>> http://brtf.sdsc.edu/biblio/BRTF_Final_Report.pdf
>>
>> and it is called "Sustainable Economics for a Digital Planet". It is 
>> very sobering reading. Fortunately, in other places there are still 
>> those who work on an easily accessible and durable 
>> (non-migration-requiring) medium. It is my personal view that that is 
>> the only long-term viable solution.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>>
>> George
>>
>>
>>  
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven C. Barr" 
>>> <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Monday, 
>>> March 15, 2010 8:14:28 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: 
>>> [ARSCLIST] 16" transcription disc housing & moving audio
>>> collections
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Biel" <[log in to unmask]>    
>>>> Thornton Hagert wrote:      
>>>>> Oh, for the Good-Old-Days when milk-crates were milk-crates !
>>>>>
>>>>>         
>>>> Not really. They were made of wire then and totally unsuitable for 
>>>> anything but glass quart bottles. .
>>>>       
>>> I actually have one of those "wire" milk boxes out in my garage! As 
>>> you note, it isn't good for 78's. The "golden age" of milk boxes was 
>>> in the mid-seventies, at least in the Toronto area...Sealtest used 
>>> what look to be fiberglas boxes, which are VERY durable...they were 
>>> red in colour. There was a "second issue" of the newer smaller 
>>> boxes...these are very hard to find, and are green in colour...! 
>>> However, I was given about 300 or so of the red ones, by a 
>>> variety-store owner...he had been "caught" with them when the size 
>>> was changed, and as a result the dairy no longer wanted them (nor 
>>> would they pay his deposit on them...!).
>>> Steven C. Barr
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Brandon Burke Archivist for Recorded Sound Collections Hoover 
>>> Institution Archives Stanford University Stanford, CA 94305-6010 vox: 
>>> 650.724.9711 fax: 650.725.3445 email: [log in to unmask]     
>>
>>
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