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Re: Pressing 78s today & Audio Research URL

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Roger Kulp <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:47:13 -0700

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Why shellac I ask.I believe people have posted  names on this list before,of those who will press coarse grooved 78s on vinyl.If you went to cool78s.com,you saw the liff Richard "Breathless",which I have,and the Bill Cowsill.I also once sold a BMG/Victor promo vinyl 78 of The Original Dixieland Jazz Band,in a special picture cover from the 199os Why not ast the people at Historic Masters,if nothing else.The people who  make these sort of records,are well aware of the compsition of shellac 78s,and could probably make you a custom pressing of shellac.

I think the very last shellac 78s I am aware of were pressed in India,and various African countries,in the mid-60s.While some of these countries pressed 78s into the early 70s,the ones I have seen are vinyl,sort of like the 78 RPM kiddie records,on labels like Disneyland,that lasted well into the 60s.

I have three of the 1959-60 US 78s,from labels like Ace,Atlantic,and Gone,that I have heard were custom pressings for jukebox owners too cheap or stubbon to switch over to them newfangled little things with the big holes.Two are shellac,one is vinyl,as are the few ABC-Paramount 78s I own.


Roger







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From: Malcolm Rockwell <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Sun, April 4, 2010 8:21:10 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Pressing 78s today & Audio Research URL

Of course I know about most of the issue locations appearing on the website Dave gave us (thanks, Dave) for shellac pressings made after 1958. I have quite a collection of vinyl 78s as well, from "Champaign Charlie" by Leon Redbone to the 5 (?) issues from the fellow who issued 78 reproductions on the Oriole label. Also those produced by John Fahey and The Cheap Suit Serenaders (R. Crumb, et al) and more, almost all of which are 10" 78rpm vinyls that are played with a standard LP stylus, NOT a 2.7mil 78rpm stylus!
What I haven't heard of is anyone pressing shellac 78s today, regardless of the groove style. I'll be more than surprised if anyone can confirm that shellac 78s are still being manufactured anywhere!
Still haven't located a one-off shellac press manufacturer, either - defunct or existing.
Malcolm

*******

David Weiner wrote:
> Here's a site that deals with some of the MANY 78s that have been pressed since the 60s:
> http://www.cool78s.com/index.html
> 
> Dave Weiner
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Malcolm Rockwell" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 9:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Pressing 78s today & Audio Research URL
> 
> 
>> Really? This is the first I've heard of this. Even though India is in the part of the world where the lac beetle lives, and thus closer to the source of shellac, I've never heard of a pressing plant, in India or anywhere else for that matter, still set up to make the biscuits to actually press shellac 78s. Not to mention having an actual working water heated press.
>> I've asked before on other lists whether a portable, one-off press was used in pressing plant audio labs c. 1935-40 for making single test pressings, possibly for cutter, stylus or new shellac formulation tests. I've never gotten an answer, but it seems likely that someone must have produced one.
>> Hmmm, I think I'll go for a troll through the Audio Record magazine archive today. Maybe I'll spot one there.
>> Here's the URL, just in case you may have missed the first posting here:
>> http://www.archive.org/details/audiorecord4552newyrich
>> Malcolm
>> 
>> *******
>> 
>> Nigel Barrett wrote:
>>> Go to India the only country I know still making 78's.n.a.b.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Sueiro Bal Marcos <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Greetings
>>>> A client of a friend wants to press "78s". By this I assume he means
>>>> coarse-groove discs spinning at 78 RPM --who knows with what curve. Anyone
>>>> know of a mastering facility that can cut such a lacquer? I could not find
>>>> an answer in the archives. He does not expect anyone to actually play them.
>>>> 
>>>> If anyone knows of a pressing plant capable of pressing 78s, I'd appreciate
>>>> that too. I assume no one in the world can press shellac anymore, but maybe
>>>> thick vinyl?
>>>> 
>>>> I would not even bother asking, but knowing this exists
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.phonographcylinders.com/index.htm
>>>> 
>>>> I thought there may be a chance.
>>>> 
>>>> Next up --tinfoil-cylinder reissues of classic 1980s CDs.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> 
>>>> Marcos
>>>> 
>>>> Marcos Sueiro Bal
>>>> Masterdisk
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>> 718.902.7441
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
> 



      

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