I've gotten by far the best results from the analog output. By the time you
deal with the DC offset, the emphasis and the offset between the channels,
the audio quality is considerably worse than just playing the thing into a
first class A to D converter.
There were modified units that used Apogee filters and beefier power
supplies that sound absolutely wonderful. The Jeff Rowland modification was
especially good.
Bob Olhsson Audio Mastery, Nashville TN
Mastering, Audio for Picture, Mix Evaluation and Quality Control
Over 40 years making people sound better than they ever imagined!
615.562.4346 http://www.bobolhsson.com http://audiomastery.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Shai Drori
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 12:52 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Editing F-1 for LaMonte Young
Have the propack, never used the digital out because on mine it on
d-sub.... talk about odd stuff.
On 9/14/2010 7:07 PM, Ted Kendall wrote:
> Unless you use the Audio and Design ProPack, which in some
> incarnations removed the error and in some incarnations doubled it...ACK!
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shai Drori"
> <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 5:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Editing F-1 for LaMonte Young
>
>
>> and don't forget that if you use the digital out of pcm your data on
>> one channel is lagging one sample behind the other because they are
>> matrixed. ha ha
>>
>> On 9/14/2010 8:55 AM, Ted Kendall wrote:
>>> 44.056 sampling on the NTSC F1was to fit with standard 60Hz field
>>> rate - PAL F1s worked at 44.1 on the nail.
>>>
>>> Oh, the tribulations of F1 editing (and 1610, if it comes to that) -
>>> trying to do F1 dropins, which never quite worked because the data
>>> coding took no notice of frame boundaries, and the interminable
>>> waiting for the DAE to roll back, scratch itself, start up, get in
>>> sync, scartch itself...and then you weren't concentraing at the edit
>>> point and had to wait another two minutes to hear it again...we
>>> talked and dreamed of "hard disc jumps" in those days. It was
>>> obviously the way to go,but nobody had made it work at any sort of
>>> affordable price. I bought my first Sadie in '93 and the nightmare
>>> was over...
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Fine"
>>> <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 8:27 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Editing F-1 for LaMonte Young
>>>
>>>
>>>> I didn't know Betamax or F-1 but down any usable time-code except
>>>> for NTSC frame-sync. That's a very interesting story.
>>>>
>>>> As I recall, even the Professional 1600 series editors were
>>>> difficult and tricky with short-length insert edits. Any of those
>>>> video-based digital systems had the same problem, essentially that
>>>> U-Matic and other slow-speed video formats were not designed for
>>>> very short inserts. Also rocking and rolling U-matic tapes over and
>>>> over was a recipe to cause dropouts.
>>>>
>>>> Interesting side-note -- at the time of these recordings, late
>>>> 1980's, Soundstream was long-established and included a
>>>> hard-drive-based waveform editor very much like today's DAWs. I
>>>> wonder why they (Soundstream) never tried to exploit the edit-only
>>>> market, this project would be an obvious candidate. The F-1 tapes
>>>> could have been loaded into the DAW computer via a sample-rate
>>>> converter or the computer software could have been tweaked to work
>>>> with EIAJ standard PCM streams (if I recall correctly, the F-1
>>>> sampled at slightly less than 44.1khz, forgot the reason why).
>>>>
>>>> -- Tom Fine
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcos Sueiro Bal"
>>>> <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 11:55 AM
>>>> Subject: [ARSCLIST] Editing F-1 for LaMonte Young
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> All,
>>>>>
>>>>> You may enjoy this post on early-digital craziness...
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.themasterdiskrecord.com/2010/09/scott-hull-on-the-produ
>>>>> ction-of-la-monte-youngs-the-well-tuned-piano-gramavision-1987/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> marcos
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Marcos Sueiro Bal
>>>>> Audio Engineer
>>>>> 718.902.7441
>>>>> Follow my blog, The Audio Archivist:
>>>>> http://theaudioarchivist.blogspot.com/
>>>>>
>>>
>
|