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Re: NY Record Dealers was Record Hunter

From:

Don Chichester <[log in to unmask]>

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Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sun, 5 Dec 2010 23:10:07 EST

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Yeah, I vaguely recall such a chat.  What year did you graduate from  HHS?  
Next Spring I'll be attending HHS 60th Reunion.  (!)
 
Swede Olsen worked with his wife Karen (now living in Florida), along with  
Artie Eisner (and me on weekends and school holidays), c. 1952-1955.  I  
went to Hofstra, got a BS in Applied Physics, and went to work for ARMA 
(Garden  City) for 6 years, before going to seminary and the ministry.  We all 
were  members of Lantern Theatre and were in a number of plays on LI.  Artie 
got  the bug and went to Hollywood.  I found one small item with his name on  
imdb.  I have fond memories of those days....
 
Where do you live?  I'm in Roanoke, VA.  
 
Happy Holidays!
 
Don
 
 
In a message dated 12/5/2010 10:43:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[log in to unmask] writes:

Ah,  Don,

You may or may not remember , but you and I have gone down this  road 
before a few years back when I was reminiscing on this list about my  
mis-spent youth, most specifically my discovery of Radio City Music  
Store while I was a student at Hempstead HS in the mid-1960s and my  
dealings with Swede (no other name that I ever was aware of) who kept  
it's small confines well stocked with the good stuff.

Later,  following my Long Island years, I moved westward to the Isle of 
Manhattan.  I did find time to mis-spend my post-youth at places like 
Discophile (with  Franz overseeing the operation), Bremen House (Franz, 
again) and 8th  Avenue Records (kind of a cutout and overstock dump 
presided over by Fred  Draisner, who always had a reel-to-reel playing 
Met opera broadcast tapes,  it seemed). Somewhat later, I did manage to 
dig through huge piles  (mounds, more like it) of 78s at some place over 
on 4th Avenue that I  don't recall having a name and scoring some pretty 
incredible stuff for  peanuts. Somewhat later still, I added Jay's Music 
Hunter on 5th Ave to my  haunts and Sam Goody was always good if you read 
the Sunday paper to see  what labels were on sale for the week. Now that 
I am scouring my memory, I  realize that I shouldn't omit mentioning 
Patelson's Music Store's record  department. It was pretty tiny, but was 
almost all well selected imports.  My interest was and is pretty strong 
in the area of the instrument I play,  French horn, and there always 
seemed to be a resident horn player on staff  at Patelson's that kept an 
eye out for sheet music and records in that  narrow niche.

Those were the days that I really had next to no money,  but always 
seemed to find a way to rationalize purchasing that disc that I  knew I 
would kill myself later for having passed up the opportunity to  take it 
home with me.

Gee, just think, now I could just stay home  and Google what I want and 
download it all and load it onto my personal  digital listening device. 
Think of all the time and effort I would have  saved myself and all the 
empty space I'd have in my apartment in place of  of record shelving 
(sarcasm completely intentional).

Just an  old-ish fart with fond recollections,

Peter Hirsch


12/5/2010 3:05 PM, Don Chichester wrote:
> FWIW, I used to work for  Radio City Music Store which had stores in Times
> Square and  Hempstead.  i worked at the LI store in the early '50s.  I   
don't
> know who owned the chain.
>
> Don  Chichester
>
>
> In a message dated 12/5/2010 2:36:09 P.M.  Eastern Standard Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
>  Hi  Michael,
>
> I am still friendly with a couple of dealers  from the old days  that are 
"
> still with us. "
>
>  Maybe I can get them to a dinner in  Manhattan to talk about those times 
 if
> you wish to host such an  event.
>
> ALSO, a  former store manager of my World of Music store  relocated to Las
>  Vegas many years ago and opened a record collectible  store. His name  is
> Richard Rosen&  his store became&  still is   quite successful. You may 
wish
> to contact Richard as well, as he has  many  deal buddies from the old 
days.
> Here is his store's  link:  http://www.waxtraxrecords.com/index.php
>
>  http://www.pearlsent.com/waxtrax/
>
> Good  luck with your  project.
>
> Jay
> Your search for sound&  video  ends  here!
>
> Jay Sonin, General Manager
> Music  Hunter Distributing  Company
> 25-58 34th Street, Suite # 2
>  Astoria, NY  11103-4902
> [log in to unmask]
>  718-777-1949
> ----- Original Message  -----
> From: "Michael  Biel"<[log in to unmask]>
>  To:<[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010  2:34  AM
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Record Hunter - Remington   Records
>
>
> From: Music  Hunter<[log in to unmask]>
>>   Hi Thomas, I  remember Remmington as a low budget priced label
>> that we   sold for a dollar or two. I really don't remember much
>> else  about  them. as you know, this was many years ago.
> Remington was  "A Don Gabor  Production" as was proclaimed on each album.
> Some  of the covers were done  by Alex Steinweiss, adding a bit of  class
> to a budget label.  The  price of the record was built  into the catalog
> number, and I think the  lowest series was 199,  and there was also a 299,
> perhaps even a 399  series.  They  probably ended up being GREATLY
> discounted!!  Most  of the  recordings were European, some licensed and
> some he actually   recorded and produced himself.  The Enesco conducted
>  Rumanian  Rhapsodies were on Remington.  At the 1999 IASA in Vienna  we
> had a  presentation by a conductor who had made many of the  early 50s
> recordings  in Vienna for many of the labels.  I  asked him about Gabor
> and he did  not have nice memories of  him.
>
>> If my memory is correct, the Vox  materials were  all public domain
>> recordings.
> There was a lot  of  info about George Mendelssohn in a Vox anniversary CD
> set a few  years  ago, and I doubt that more than a small few of the
>  recordings on Vox were  PD recordings -- at least the recordings
>  themselves.  As for the  music, Haydn and Beethoven, etc. were PD,  but
> Vox also released a lot of  modern music.  Pop stuff,  too.  Can't forget
> the George Feyer  "Memories of . . ."  series.
>
>> At The Record Hunter in those days, we   carried every title in print on
>> every label just like Music  Hunter  does now. With so many labels,
>> it's hard to remember  those details  after so many years.  Jay Sonin
> That was also  Sam Goody's claim  back in the early 50s.  I never hit The
>  Record Hunter until I was in  high school around 1962, but that was  
after
> you were out of it (??) when it  was only one store on 5th  Ave. just
> north of 42nd St.  Lots of fond  memories there --  I can cite specific
> records I got there that were  important to  my collecting development.
> Things that were not at   Goody's!!  I don't remember the uptown and
> village locations of  the RH  I see in ads in the early 50s.
>
> I've been wanting  to put together an  ARSC presentation about NYC record
> stores,  and I need to get together with  you!  We need to capture  the
> golden age of the independent store in  the 40s and  50s.
>
> Mike Biel  [log in to unmask]
>
>
>  -----  Original Message -----
> From: "Thomas  Stern"<[log in to unmask]>
>  To:<[log in to unmask]>
> Sent:  Saturday, December 04,  2010 9:47 PM
> Subject: Record Hunter - Remington   Records
>
>
>> Hello Jay Sonin,
>> I noticed  your post on  ARSCLIST re Boris Rose.
>> Wonder if you have any  information about the  relationship between 
Record
>> Hunter  and
>> Remington - I remember  buying many of their albums at  the Record 
Hunter -
>> they seemed to be  a
>>  perpetual "sale" item.
>> I did an extensive Richard   Dyer-Bennet discography a while ago, and 
there
>> is the   unexplained
>> modification to his Remington album. After the  initial  release, two
>> tracks were deleted
>> on all  subsequent Remington  pressings (some still listed the songs on  
the
>> label even though  they
>> were NOT on the LP),  and not on the Continental reissues.
>>   Do you have any  knowledge of why this was done?
>> Also, some sources  have  theorized that the tracks on a VOX ep might 
have
>> come from  the  Remington session. They could also quite
>> easily be  unissued masters  from the Vox 78rpm recordings.
>> If you know  anything related to these  questions, or can direct me to
>>  someone who does, it would be  very
>> helpful to my  researches.
>> Thank you.
>> Best wishes,   Thomas.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original  Message-----
>>   From: Association for Recorded Sound  Discussion List
>>   [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On  Behalf Of Music Hunter
>> Sent:  Saturday, December 04, 2010  6:59 PM
>> To:  [log in to unmask]
>> Subject:  Re: [ARSCLIST] Boris Rose Article  NY edition of   WSJ
>>
>>

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